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I was looking into getting parts for a friends budget build, and I know for a fact that he is a heavy fallout player, so I was wondering if this kit in the link (below) plus a radeon 6570 2gb would be good enough for playing a lot of Fallout, Skyrim, and other rpg games, plus some other modern games that I might show him. And would they run above console quality, thanks to those who help

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7651301&CatId=332
post #2 of 26
Is it possible to get a 7750 or 7770? Those cards are very good for their price. That deal looks pretty good.
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How ever much I would like that to happen, I would not think so, I was trying to keep it as little as possible because of the budget, would I be possible to keep that in the $450 range because I also need an operating system because of the fact that the kit doesn't come with one. And if that is possible, would the 6850 be better?
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Oh yes the 6850 would be much better. Go with that.
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post #5 of 26
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Would that still stay in the price range?
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Originally Posted by manofaction View Post

Would that still stay in the price range?

Whats your total price range including OS?

I don't like the look of the power supply in that combo. If you're not attached to that particular case, you might be able to just pick off the shelf components for a similar price, but get better overall quality.

EDIT:

Here's an example.

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I picked a Phenom II X4 as the higher (non turbo I may add) clock speed will help the games your friend plays more than the extra two cores. Additionally, this chip is unlocked, so you should be able to get 3.5-3.6 ghz on stock cooling without too much effort using just the multiplier. 3.7-3.8ghz are also readily available with a 20-30 dollar aftermarket heatsink. Be careful how hard you push it though as the mobo picked is not really up to the task if you go crazy with it. Keep the VRM sink cooled and you should be okay at 3.6-3.7 or so though. Add another 20-30 bucks for a better motherboard if you want to clock it higher, at which point you could get 3.8-4.0 depending on how lucky you are with the chip.

And the power supply there is MUCH better than the HEC unit. I'd be scared running a low end mobo and a low end PSU together. The combination can lead to wild voltage fluctuations. You also get 4 fans instead of the 3 fans in that combo, and they are nicer fans with higher CFM (although admittedly they do not have blue LEDs). You can also get a 4 pack of those cooler master blue led fans for like 20 bucks instead of the 30 for those cougars, so you have that option as well.

I have that case and can attest that it's pretty nice too. It's the same as a NZXT Tempest and a steal at that price, although not as much of a looker as the thermaltake, it sports the ability for twin 140s/120s on the top, twin 140s/120s on the side, twin 120s on the front, and an extra 120 on the bottom for good measure. Cooling on the case could be upgraded if your friend decides to OC.

It comes out to 497.91 with a copy of windows 7 home premium x64, a better PSU, and a CPU that is faster for the games your friend plays even at stock (with more room for improvement with a mild OC), and no rebates are necessary. There is also a 10 dollar promo code off on the power supply and a 10 dollar rebate on the power supply.

I didn't add a GPU as I don't know what the budget you have to work with is, but your friend will appreciate the extra clock speed when games are decompressing textures (I noticed a huge benefit in Fallout NV when I simply changed my CPU clock speed, for the most part the world wasn't faster unless I was using mods, but the load times were a lot shorter).
Edited by SavantStrike - 2/5/13 at 8:55pm
post #7 of 26
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Well I have to keep the total under 500 dollars, and reaching that would be a stretch on its own.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7539728&csid=_61
This was the other kit that I found that would be a good deal, and if I did my math right, would be around the same price as the other kit. The only reason why I am using kits is because whenever I try to piece them apart, it gets expensive even while using cheap parts, so if you were to be able to make something better than what I have, the rest of the kit would have a 500gb or 1tb hard drive with either a radeon 6570 2gb, 6670 2gb, 6850/6870 1gb, or if I can get one cheap enough, a 6950 1gb
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post #9 of 26
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Well I have no doubt that it will run all the games, but I am not going to trust open box or refurbished items and it is well over budget
post #10 of 26
IT WAS 450 with out taxes tongue.gif
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