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Basically when my ups is not in use, not charging just on, it uses a lot if power, around 30w but I would expect it to be less than 10w? Why?

What I have noticed is my display clearly says 230v output which I though would be right as the UK is suppose to be 230v but my mains supply is actually 240v so I wonder is my UPS using so much power because it is constantly regulating the mains from 240v to 230v?

If it is then is there a way I can modify my UPS to output 240v instead? I'm handy with a soldering iron...
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That seems totally normal to me, I had an APC 600w for a while and it dropped the voltage as well. Besides, 230v is what a computer in the UK requires so as long as you arent having power issues then don't concern yourself with it. I may be wrong but that's what I make of it. As for the 30w of power, your UPS is always in what is called a "float charging" mode, this maintains the battery level regardless of whether or not the charging indicator is on.
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That seems totally normal to me, I had an APC 600w for a while and it dropped the voltage as well. Besides, 230v is what a computer in the UK requires so as long as you arent having power issues then don't concern yourself with it. I may be wrong but that's what I make of it. As for the 30w of power, your UPS is always in what is called a "float charging" mode, this maintains the battery level regardless of whether or not the charging indicator is on.

Personally I totally understand and agree but it just seems from everywhere I read the normal is 5-7w when it's just sitting there and mine is up to 6x more than that

What did yours use?
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Personally I totally understand and agree but it just seems from everywhere I read the normal is 5-7w when it's just sitting there and mine is up to 6x more than that

What did yours use?
I cannot remember exactly, it is a unit from the late 90s early 2000s (I still have it but never bothered to go to battery source and get a new battery), was a 6 outlet unit with serial monitoring, I recall getting 20w in some cases... What is the wattage of the UPS in question?
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I cannot remember exactly, it is a unit from the late 90s early 2000s (I still have it but never bothered to go to battery source and get a new battery), was a 6 outlet unit with serial monitoring, I recall getting 20w in some cases... What is the wattage of the UPS in question?

It looks exactly the same as the Turbo-X UPS-1500SD except it's silver and doesn't say turbo-x (it does say UPS-1500SD)

As far as I know it's line interactive, 1500va, 900w, square wave or approximated I don't know

Originally though it had 4 7ah batteries and I replaced them with new 7.2ah batteries

Cant get USB to work though :-(
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It looks exactly the same as the Turbo-X UPS-1500SD except it's silver and doesn't say turbo-x (it does say UPS-1500SD)

As far as I know it's line interactive, 1500va, 900w, square wave or approximated I don't know

Originally though it had 4 7ah batteries and I replaced them with new 7.2ah batteries

Cant get USB to work though :-(

Hmm, I have never heard of these UPS units before... The current should be perfectly fine, I suspect changing the batteries to higher capacity ones may have something to do with it... As far as USB functionality, is the software suite and/or driver installed correctly and running?


Edit: Is it a Kebo Electrical unit?
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Hmm, I have never heard of these UPS units before... The current should be perfectly fine, I suspect changing the batteries to higher capacity ones may have something to do with it... As far as USB functionality, is the software suite and/or driver installed correctly and running?

Could the batteries really have made a difference? Could you possibly explain the theory behind this?

As for USB as far as I know the turbo-x units use UPSilon 2000 software which I have installed and the software says it's communicating with the ups but doesn't show any stats, voltages etc just stay at zero
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Hmm, I have never heard of these UPS units before... The current should be perfectly fine, I suspect changing the batteries to higher capacity ones may have something to do with it... As far as USB functionality, is the software suite and/or driver installed correctly and running?


Edit: Is it a Kebo Electrical unit?

Ok just done some more tests and now a little scared

UPS says its outputting 230v if its on mains or battery

Little killawatt style meter says 235v on main and about 155v on battery! and then the meter started to spark and died lol

Double tested with a multimeter and its saying that its not outputting the full 230v

Whats going on?
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Ok just done some more tests and now a little scared

UPS says its outputting 230v if its on mains or battery

Little killawatt style meter says 235v on main and about 155v on battery! and then the meter started to spark and died lol

Double tested with a multimeter and its saying that its not outputting the full 230v

Whats going on?
Hmm.. That is really baffling... I honestly cannot think of why it is doing this to you other than the fact that is its not a very well known brand and you changed the batteries to something that may beyond spec for it...
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Ok just done some more tests and now a little scared

UPS says its outputting 230v if its on mains or battery

Little killawatt style meter says 235v on main and about 155v on battery! and then the meter started to spark and died lol

Double tested with a multimeter and its saying that its not outputting the full 230v

Whats going on?

That is absolutely normal, if your computer works fine on it. The UPS doesn't create a sine wave when it's using batteries like the one coming from mains, it creates a "stepped sine wave", the size of the steps and the accuracy depending on the UPS model. That is designed to work perfectly fine on computer PSUs, but it won't display the same voltage on multimeters and things like that, and you may hear buzz on your speakers when the inverter is on (using batteries).

Your UPS has an autotransformer to regulate the mains voltage, the autotransformer is efficient but it dissipates heat (consuming energy) anyways, plus the UPS needs to charge and maintain batteries and run the control circuits, so 30W is actually OK for your UPS.

Yes, your UPS is lowering the mains voltage with the autotransformer, as, well, that's one of its functions, it's probably calibrated for 230V.
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