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I was thinking the same its older and why not move to the 990fx extreme3 as a minimum.

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4+1 phase power. I doubt you'll get 4ghz out of that chip on said mobo

An M5a99x Evo R2.0 would be a much better choice for the same price bracket if SLI isn't needed and the extra PCIE isn't needed. Gigabyte also makes some 970 boards in the 100-120 price range that are quite nice. The next step up is something like a M5a99FX Pro or a Sabertooth, or Gigabyte again.
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www.overclock.net/t/943109/about-vrms-mosfets-motherboard-safety-with-125w-tdp-processors/0_100

www.overclock.net/amd-motherboards/946407-amd-motherboard-power-phase-list.html

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I was thinking the same its older and why not move to the 990fx extreme3 as a minimum.

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That mobo can handle that CPU at 4.0ghz. I have unlock a 960T on a AsRock 970 Extreme 3 and oc it to 4.0ghz. Which has the same power phase on both.
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4+1 phase power. I doubt you'll get 4ghz out of that chip on said mobo.
Please don't start this. I can show you a 4+1 mobo that can easily handle a 8320 @ 4.7ghz.
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I was thinking the same its older and why not move to the 990fx extreme3 as a minimum.

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That mobo can handle that CPU at 4.0ghz. I have unlock a 960T on a AsRock 970 Extreme 3 and oc it to 4.0ghz. Which has the same power phase on both.
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4+1 phase power. I doubt you'll get 4ghz out of that chip on said mobo.
Please don't start this. I can show you a 4+1 mobo that can easily handle a 8320 @ 4.7ghz.

Cause phase quality is vastly more important than count.
www.overclock.net/t/943109/about-vrms-mosfets-motherboard-safety-with-125w-tdp-processors/0_100
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That mobo can handle that CPU at 4.0ghz. I have unlock a 960T on a AsRock 970 Extreme 3 and oc it to 4.0ghz. Which has the same power phase on both.
Please don't start this. I can show you a 4+1 mobo that can easily handle a 8320 @ 4.7ghz.

Sure, Not all 4+1 boards are crap, they just tend to be of lesser quality 90% of the time. Also they will be far more likely to blow while trying to achieve a max OC. Not always, but in general. The generalization of 4+1 being bad, while not 100% accurate, is pretty close. As stated, there is a VRM mobo thread for AMD, be sure to check that out.

I find the cost savings of getting a cheaper board usually gets offset by needing better VRM cooling with fans and sinks. At the end, its almost the same as just getting a quality board in the first place, with a lot less hassle and better piece of mind.

I had a terribly low quality 4+1 with a 1090T @ 3.6 for months. Mobo ran a little warm on load, but it worked fine. So yea, 4+1 can be fine. But like with PSU's, cheaper, lower quality can often work, but its usually avoided for a reason.

As long as you do your homework and look into your exact board to see its failure rate or something, or simply trying to OC and being super careful to keep and eye on those VRM's.

Since OP is at stock, I'd say give it a little OC and see what happens first, and maybe lowering the quality of the stream. Vishera is a decent upgrade, but its not a huge one from Thubans and if your usually someone who can't upgrade often, it might be worth waiting, if nothing more than for the prices to drop a little. Your GPU and CPU haven't really stretched their legs yet, give them a shot before throwing money at the issue.

KEEP AND EYE ON THOSE VRM's. Any sight of issues and you should think about a new board, especially if your staying AM3+ for a while.
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Sure, Not all 4+1 boards are crap, they just tend to be of lesser quality 90% of the time. Also they will be far more likely to blow while trying to achieve a max OC. Not always, but in general. The generalization of 4+1 being bad, while not 100% accurate, is pretty close. As stated, there is a VRM mobo thread for AMD, be sure to check that out.

I find the cost savings of getting a cheaper board usually gets offset by needing better VRM cooling with fans and sinks. At the end, its almost the same as just getting a quality board in the first place, with a lot less hassle and better piece of mind.

I had a terribly low quality 4+1 with a 1090T @ 3.6 for months. Mobo ran a little warm on load, but it worked fine. So yea, 4+1 can be fine. But like with PSU's, cheaper, lower quality can often work, but its usually avoided for a reason.

As long as you do your homework and look into your exact board to see its failure rate or something, or simply trying to OC and being super careful to keep and eye on those VRM's.

Since OP is at stock, I'd say give it a little OC and see what happens first, and maybe lowering the quality of the stream. Vishera is a decent upgrade, but its not a huge one from Thubans and if your usually someone who can't upgrade often, it might be worth waiting, if nothing more than for the prices to drop a little. Your GPU and CPU haven't really stretched their legs yet, give them a shot before throwing money at the issue.

KEEP AND EYE ON THOSE VRM's. Any sight of issues and you should think about a new board, especially if your staying AM3+ for a while.
AsRock 970/990 Extreme 3s has good quality VRMs and can handle any of the Phenom II line just fine. 8120/8150/8320/8350 are the only ones that AsRock 970/990 Extreme 3 can't handle a high oc.
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Hex cores can stress boards pretty hard. I wouldn't jump right off saying the M3A770DE can take a Hex core to beyond 4 ghz. The extreme3 boards can definitely take it to 4 i would be but i would say why buy an extreme3 when you can get a 970a-ud3 for the same price? (the gigabyte 970 chipset boards have stronger vrms than the extreme 3/4 series). - that is my board of choice that i used for my 955 @ 4.2ghz & for my friend's 8320 streaming build with a ud3. 8+2 true phases, just solid overclocker in my experience and i read online.


Just look at the asrock boards here instead of saying that it's all good dixson.
http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database/0_100


I'd recommend an 8320 if you live near a microcenter so you can get an insanely cheap combo.
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Hex cores can stress boards pretty hard. I wouldn't jump right off saying the M3A770DE can take a Hex core to beyond 4 ghz. The extreme3 boards can definitely take it to 4 i would be but i would say why buy an extreme3 when you can get a 970a-ud3 for the same price? (the gigabyte 970 chipset boards have stronger vrms than the extreme 3/4 series). - that is my board of choice that i used for my 955 @ 4.2ghz & for my friend's 8320 streaming build with a ud3. 8+2 true phases, just solid overclocker in my experience and i read online.


Just look at the asrock boards here instead of saying that it's all good dixson.
http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database/0_100


I'd recommend an 8320 if you live near a microcenter so you can get an insanely cheap combo.
Well I own 3 AsRock 970 Extreme 3, so I'm speaking from experience and have oc 955 (4.0ghz), 960T (4.1ghz(unlock x6 4.1ghz), 6100 (4.4ghz), 2 6300 (4.6ghz), 8150(4.3ghz) and 8320 (4.5ghz) on them.

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I order and test alot of mobo out for xd_1771.

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Quality over quantity is the name of the game here.
Ok look at this mobo. Is a 3+1 and put some VRM cooler on it and can handle a 1090T @ 4.0ghz just fine. How do I know? I have done it. But I wouldn't recommend doing it.
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AsRock 970/990 Extreme 3s has good quality VRMs and can handle any of the Phenom II line just fine. 8120/8150/8320/8350 are the only ones that AsRock 970/990 Extreme 3 can't handle a high oc.

Agreed. My points were aimed at his current board. The Extreme 3 would be a great choice for sure, and he shouldn't have any issues.
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Thank you all for your input here. A little later in the day I will compare some of these boards..... Mainly when I am ore awake.

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