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i cant create a partition on my ssd, it says no usable free extent. I only got a 2gb stick in, ive tried both 2gb and 4gb (because i generallly have 2x2gb)... my ssd is like 30gb used of 75gb. in cmd it says 0 free for the disk though, not sure why :X
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Originally Posted by Belial View Post

i cant create a partition on my ssd, it says no usable free extent. I only got a 2gb stick in, ive tried both 2gb and 4gb (because i generallly have 2x2gb)... my ssd is like 30gb used of 75gb. in cmd it says 0 free for the disk though, not sure why :X

The GA manual gives a detailed explanation how to create the partition - or the Gigabyte EZ Thingy Utility will do it for you I think.

I was able to create the partition no prob following the manual instructions, but have not gotten Rapid start to work yet (but then again I don't really know what to expect since there is no clear technical oriented answer as to what Intel Rapid Start actually does. Anyway might have to change some BIOS settings for Power Saving mode and stuff.

As for what Rapid Start is.... all I can say is that on my friends ASRock board he has a ASRock utility that gives him 3 options: Instant On, Fast Boot and Normal Boot. When uses the Instant Boot option his PC turns on instantly. And I mean literally instantly as in his finger has not left the On button yet and the desktop is on screen ready to go from zero (zero as in no fans spinning). HOWEVER: he has a AMD APU (A10), so I can only assume that Rapid Start is the Intel equivalent to this Instant On marvel. I mean, why would Intel not have it?
Edited by 8bitG33k - 2/8/13 at 5:55pm
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^ Hey! Thanks for posting. I've played around with stuff so:

- I don't think you're friend is using Intel Rapid start - or rather, what you are thinking of, which sounds cool, is not intel rapid start. Or, he's truly not turning off the pc.

Intel rapid start means that if you put your computer to sleep, 2 things will happen:
- Your computer will go into a deeper sleep where USB devices like your mouse/keyboard will not wake it anymore, you have to hit the power button to wake it from sleep
- Your computer will wake from sleep immediately

doesnt the computer wake from sleep immediately already though? whatever...

You gotta enable intel rapid start in the computer, and you gotta create that special partition. And then install rapid start driver from intel (gotta google it, its not easy to navigate to).

Your friends computer, I don't know what's going on exactly, but see if it's actually turned off (does usb device charge?). It sounds like it's just waking from a special type of sleep or something. There is no instant on feature that i know of.
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^ Hey! Thanks for posting. I've played around with stuff so:

- I don't think you're friend is using Intel Rapid start - or rather, what you are thinking of, which sounds cool, is not intel rapid start. Or, he's truly not turning off the pc.

Intel rapid start means that if you put your computer to sleep, 2 things will happen:
- Your computer will go into a deeper sleep where USB devices like your mouse/keyboard will not wake it anymore, you have to hit the power button to wake it from sleep
- Your computer will wake from sleep immediately

doesnt the computer wake from sleep immediately already though? whatever...

----> How do you get it to go into that mode though? <----

Since I cant see how else to get it to go into this special sleep mode, I hit the sleep button. After which my PC reboots twice. The first time it goes back to the desktop, the second time it goes to the Windows logon screen. But it never actually goes to sleep. Sidenote: On my friends PC it reboots once, the first it goes back to the desktop, then it 'shuts down'. (ie, I know it doesn't truly 'shut down' as it is a sort of 'deep sleep').

Quote:
You gotta enable intel rapid start in the computer, and you gotta create that special partition. And then install rapid start driver from intel (gotta google it, its not easy to navigate to).

Yeah, I have it installed in Windows and I have it enabled in UEFI



Quote:
Your friends computer, I don't know what's going on exactly, but see if it's actually turned off (does usb device charge?). It sounds like it's just waking from a special type of sleep or something. There is no instant on feature that i know of.

Which is exactly what his PC does. It is not truly "off", but it is in a deep sleep 'type' mode that differs from the Windows Sleep mode in that everything is turned off and you have to hit the power button to turn it on. Cant be woken up by moving the mouse or hitting the keyboard. AND it does not go into this mode by itself but must be initiated by the user (as opposed to Windows putting it to sleep after specified time of inactivity). I think the only thing that stays powered on is the SSD.

EDIT: It's probably an AMD specific miracle and Intel Rapid Start does nothing, it only has spiffy sounding name and a gimmicky Interface as seen in my screenshot above. Because I can't tell any difference on my PC with or without Rapid Start enabled/ installed. baaasmiley.gif
Edited by 8bitG33k - 2/9/13 at 3:19pm
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Sorry, I don't mean to hijack your thread. I assumed this was a continuation of the discussion we were having in the GA-Z77x-xxxx owner's thread.
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Please continue, I actually saw you post about your friends build in another thread and wanted to talk to you but instead of bumping that thread, i made this one. Glad you posted! Besides, no one cares to post in here.

Your friend is probably putting his computer into like c6 or s4 or whatever. There are many different sleep states, like can be woken from usb, can't be woken, vayring in how 'deep' the sleep is.

I mean I can tell intel rapid start works. It's not too impressive, it's just a sleep that is deeper and needs to hit the power button to wake from instead of moving usb, both wake quickly. Can you wake your computer with a mouse/keyboard? You shouldn't be able to.

And you can change what your power button does, as well as your case reset button. Just change your power button to be a sleep/hibernate like your friend did. And then your computer would boot up quickly, and it's not really off.
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If things are not clear yet:

· Rapid Start: Hibernate to SSD (suspend to SSD instead of suspend to disk).
· Rapid Storage: use SSD as HDD cache. There are some vendors providing their own software implementation, such as Corsair Accelerator series.
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If things are not clear yet:

· Rapid Start: Hibernate to SSD (suspend to SSD instead of suspend to disk).
· Rapid Storage: use SSD as HDD cache. There are some vendors providing their own software implementation, such as Corsair Accelerator series.

- What else would you hibernate to, other than your system disk? I just have a single ssd, would hibernate go to ram instead?
- You sure you aren't confusing rapid storage with intel smart response technology, which uses the ssd as a cache for the hdd if your system is installed on the hdd?

My main question is how this all relates to someone with just a single ssd as entire system storage.
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- What else would you hibernate to, other than your system disk? I just have a single ssd, would hibernate go to ram instead?
- You sure you aren't confusing rapid storage with intel smart response technology, which uses the ssd as a cache for the hdd if your system is installed on the hdd?

My main question is how this all relates to someone with just a single ssd as entire system storage.
- No, hibernation implies powered-off DRAM. Rapid Start requires a special hibernation partition. Instead of the OS taking control of the hibernation function, now the hardware is doing the job. It is supposed to be as fast as suspend to RAM... If you already have your system in an SSD drive, I don't think it's way faster.
- Sort of. RST is the software that manages smart response smile.gif

By the way, +rep for that PK-3 review.
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- No, hibernation implies powered-off DRAM. Rapid Start requires a special hibernation partition. Instead of the OS taking control of the hibernation function, now the hardware is doing the job. It is supposed to be as fast as suspend to RAM... If you already have your system in an SSD drive, I don't think it's way faster.

Ohhh.. so that's what intel rapid start is doing. It puts your computer in hibernation. But with ssd and intel rapid start and all, instead of you putting your pc to sleep, you are putting it to hibernate and waking as quickly as if it were just sleep. s3 = sleep, s4 = hibernate, intel rapid start is putting your pc to s4 when normally it'd be s3, and waking it just as quickly.

Things are already fast on ssd, but if your system was on hdd, and system was doing the sleeping and hibernating, then sleep comes out slower, and this isrt would be utilizing your ram and ssd to hibernate, and quicker.

Then intel rapid storage, not to be confused with rapid start, is just the name of a program that handles things. so you always want intel rapid storage on. Intel smart response technology, iSRT, is that whole use ssd as cache for hdd if you are cheap and dont have much money or something like that, like bought a 30gb patriot drive to go with your small hdd because you cant afford to get a 64gb ssd or something...

and then theres one other one that has to do with facebok and stuff.... i just disabled that in bios and havent looked twice at that.

repping both you guys for partaking in this incredibly boring and too complicated discussion.
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