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First impressions are not what count.

Building a solid foundation for the future is what counts and as long as they build on it, it can be a "failure" all it wants.

Vistas "failure" caused great things to happen for Windows 7, without even really deviating that far away from the basis of what Vista actually was, because Vista was not a total failure. It was built on, not scrapped.


Sure it can be refined, but it's a brand new project in a brand new direction for the company. That just leaves a lot of potential to be unlocked. More room for "we did this and this and this and this" at their next big conference.

Then there's their hardware. That doesn't need to be a platinum medal winner either. Their OEM partners are the people who give them their income. Its the OEM partners who need to do well and overall, Windows 8 tablets have been reviewing remarkably well for first passes.


As much as people would love to think Windows 8 not doing blockbusters is a huge deal, it really isn't.

You're missing the point: I'm talking about Windows 8. First impressions regarding Windows 8, are, by your own logic regarding Windows Vista, important. Windows 8 as a product has a tainted image. Windows 9 on the other hand will probably be good. Tablets will no longer have such mediocre hardware, battery life will be better with better, power sipping CPUs, so they will no longer have to give the ridiculous excuse that Metro is the future in design language and will be able to apply some proper sophisticated design with Aero and shadows instead of a flat, simplistic colour design aimed at saving battery life and the OS will have touch much better integrated. So, of course you're right, but so am I, you just missed the point I was making.

However, as you said yourself many times before, this is not the same time as 2009, now the competition is serious and is making a dent, even if Windows 9 is a great OS, it's not alone anymore, so Windows 8's bad first impression may actually have more of an impact than Windows Vista did in its time, because nowadays people may not be waiting for the next good OS from Microsoft, they may switch before that.
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I adopted it before it was even released. It's a great OS imo. Nothing wrong with Windows 7 though, but I get a lot more BSOD there.
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Give windows 8 one year and then it will be decent.

Most likely this is very true.

Only problem is, it will also be very expensive (well, in about 3 weeks) too.
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Seriously loving W8. At first I didn't like it, but now I LOVE it. Metro is amazing, I hate the old start menu now.
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Seriously loving W8. At first I didn't like it, but now I LOVE it. Metro is amazing, I hate the old start menu now.

Same. I realize now, when I'm on my current rig, I absolutely hate when I'm forced to use the Start menu... On my wife's, I don't miss it a bit.
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The interface sucks.... I will stay on Windows 7 x64... going to windows 8 has no advantage that is worth dealing with that interface.
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Same. I realize now, when I'm on my current rig, I absolutely hate when I'm forced to use the Start menu... On my wife's, I don't miss it a bit.

The only thing I don't like about the removal of the start menu is that when you install some programs you might end up with 50 tiles on there just for one program. On a start menu these would all be sorted into neat folders for you. Photoshop CS4 and Visual Studio were especially bad. All you got to do is hide or move them into folder, but it is still pain. Plus there are somethings that might only be used once in a while. On the start menu they were easy to find since the folder names would give you a clue. An the start screen I have to make all these folders my self. Personally I've just removed them and then when I needed them I've dug them out the program's install folder...or searched for them if I knew what they were called.

Though if software was made with Windows 8 in mind I'd think that the folder sorting would come back.
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The only thing I don't like about the removal of the start menu is that when you install some programs you might end up with 50 tiles on there just for one program. On a start menu these would all be sorted into neat folders for you. Photoshop CS4 and Visual Studio were especially bad. All you got to do is hide or move them into folder, but it is still pain. Plus there are somethings that might only be used once in a while. On the start menu they were easy to find since the folder names would give you a clue. An the start screen I have to make all these folders my self. Personally I've just removed them and then when I needed them I've dug them out the program's install folder...or searched for them if I knew what they were called.

Though if software was made with Windows 8 in mind I'd think that the folder sorting would come back.

To each his own. As soon as I install, I do a clean up to make it all pretty. Navigating the start menu was, IMO, tedious and ugly. I mostly started using explorer to do what I wanted to do, with some shortcuts on my desktop. Now I use tiles to make things accessable without clutter on my desktop. It looks puuuurty to me, is basically what I'm saying!
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The only thing I don't like about the removal of the start menu is that when you install some programs you might end up with 50 tiles on there just for one program. On a start menu these would all be sorted into neat folders for you. Photoshop CS4 and Visual Studio were especially bad. All you got to do is hide or move them into folder, but it is still pain. Plus there are somethings that might only be used once in a while. On the start menu they were easy to find since the folder names would give you a clue. An the start screen I have to make all these folders my self. Personally I've just removed them and then when I needed them I've dug them out the program's install folder...or searched for them if I knew what they were called.

Though if software was made with Windows 8 in mind I'd think that the folder sorting would come back.

all you have to do at your Start Menu is just type the first 2-3 letters of the app/program you want to access. It's the same function as the previous search bar.
You can also zoom out for a quick second on the metro screen and see more at once.

If you're only going to use the program every once in a while anyways, you can pin it way to the back of the list. You'd have to search for it on windows 7 just the same
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I hear less complains from people migrating to MacOS from Win and back than Win7->8.
And then we have iOs, and Android etc.

Imho, beachin for the start menu and the full screen launching apps, it is just pointless whining..."i would take any UI change, but my start menu? noooo that was the last drop!"

At the same time, people get used and adapted to countless UI nonsense differences dealing with identical issues, from Games, to Office and Adobe Suite, to much more complicated UIs with 3D CAD/graphic content creation software...as soon as you think some things were solved, ppl prove you wrong, and it get especially frustrating if you are working simultaneusly on more than one app, where in A case the right click is orbiting and the center is command sub-menu, or spacebar is "end command" while for the other is repeat last command etc etc as if the programmers were trying too hard to differentiate from the competitor instead of helping you.

Would I prefer Win8 to have a "classic" theme that would make it look like Win 2000? Could be the case (that's how win7, vista and XP was running on my machines)...but I also like it that the MS people made a statement with Win8, and all the old dogs are hauling for having to learn new tricks.
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