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Not at all sir, you will still be able to do anything windows related with the Razer Edge Pro. All it really is is a Surface Pro with a 640M Nvidia GFX processor inside and it will only cost slightly more than the Surface Pro.

Now if you REALLY want to talk about Production then the Surface Pro is already out of date in terms of what it can do.

Check out the Acer W700 and you will see what I am talking about. Now the W700 is technically a slate but they both have almost identical specs, but the W700 is sporting some extras that the Surface Pro is behind on.

This thing is killing the surface right now...


http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model-datasheet/NT.L0EAA.005
Razer Edge Pro is lower res and both lack one huge feature which is a stylus.
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Not at all sir, you will still be able to do anything windows related with the Razer Edge Pro. All it really is is a Surface Pro with a 640M Nvidia GFX processor inside and it will only cost slightly more than the Surface Pro.

Now if you REALLY want to talk about Production then the Surface Pro is already out of date in terms of what it can do.

Check out the Acer W700 and you will see what I am talking about. Now the W700 is technically a slate but they both have almost identical specs, but the W700 is sporting some extras that the Surface Pro is behind on.

This thing is killing the surface right now...


http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model-datasheet/NT.L0EAA.005

 

 

How does it kill the MS Pro..?

 

Did you notice how clunky and non-mobile that keyboard is?  Where is the stylus...? I think a good many of you shops specs only and have no idea, or propensity for functionality.

 

MoAr specs, doesn't mean anything for something that already runs smoothly and delivers. Not-to-mention.. that Acer tablet is not remotely the same thing as a Surface...  you can't walk with that under your arm (Where u going to put the keyboard...lol).

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How does it kill the MS Pro..?

Did you notice how clunky and non-mobile that keyboard is?  Where is the stylus...? I think a good many of you shops specs only and have no idea, or propensity for functionality.

MoAr specs, doesn't mean anything for something that already runs smoothly and delivers. Not-to-mention.. that Acer tablet is not remotely the same thing as a Surface...  you can't walk with that under your arm (Where u going to put the keyboard...lol).

The W700 is different from SP, the keyboard/dock is not going to be as mobile as the type cover but will provide a better typing experience once it is on a desk, Plus it offers a 54 Wh battery which dwarfs SP's 42 Wh.

The one I think will be the main Hybrid Tablet competition of SP is ATIV Pro 700T, It is a little pricer than SP+Type cover(about $1030, 700t is $1100) but offers a bigger screen and battery(49Wh), the draw back is that the tablet(1.89lbs)+keyboard is 3.5lbs, 1 lb heavier than SP+Type Cover(2.5lbs).

I don't think either the Acer or Samsung product is going to outclass the SPro, but they do offer legit competition as does convertiable ultrabooks such as Yoga13/XPS12/ThinkPad Helix etc. Surface Pro is an interesting product, but it is far from peerless.
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Just like with everything in life, we can all agree that the people buying a Surface Pro will be the ones that know that it can meet their needs - myself included.

This is the first iteration of a major Ultrabook/Tablet hybrid. It's not meant to replace Ultrabooks, and it's not meant to replace tablets. It's meant to fuse the two, WITH COMPROMISES OF COURSE, while trying to give a good enough experience when using the device in either form.

In that regard, Microsoft has succeeded. I'll mention again, things like battery life, no interior slot for the pen, etc., will probably all be remedied in future iterations. The Surface Pro is miles ahead of JUST a tablet or JUST an Ultrabook, if the user can determine that it fits their needs. That's really all there is to it.

Bring on the Haswell version down the road, increased storage, etc., and i'll be eBaying this first iteration. Saturday morning can't come soon enough though!

exactly. People complain about the battery life....but where do you think microsoft is going to get a battery that's small enough and light enough to fit in such a small form factor, yet still feed a CPU that EATS every other tablet on the market? They can't use magic to power it. Lets not forget this thing is still under 2 pounds....

As of now, you can't get the best of power and the best of battery life at the same time. But, the surface PRO is the best you can get for now. Atom based Windows 8 tablets have way better battery life, but are significantly slower. Other tablets/ultrabooks that have better battery life are heavier/bigger.

This is what I don't understand. How do people thinking that an 8 h battery life is good when you get less then an hour of actual productivity out of it under heavy work loads? I'd much rather have 5 hours of battery with 5 hours of actual CAD, office, etc., work then 3-4 hours of video play back or waiting 5x longer for the same page to load on my browsers while still not supporting every browser language out there. Like... it's common sense. An e2-1800 already destroys every tablet out there for basic use while, on a 6 cell, can maintain 8 hours of battery life.

A n2600? Well, 11 hours! Throw those into tablets and you'll really see tablets be what they were suppose to be instead of these toys we currently have (in which you use and eventually just throw away cause they are a novelty piece). Or unless you read on them. lol
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I wonder if you can run android apps on this, since I heard you can do that on windows, but use the gyroscope and accelerometer.
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This is what I don't understand. How do people thinking that an 8 h battery life is good when you get less then an hour of actual productivity out of it under heavy work loads? I'd much rather have 5 hours of battery with 5 hours of actual CAD, office, etc., work then 3-4 hours of video play back or waiting 5x longer for the same page to load on my browsers while still not supporting every browser language out there. Like... it's common sense. An e2-1800 already destroys every tablet out there for basic use while, on a 6 cell, can maintain 8 hours of battery life.

A n2600? Well, 11 hours! Throw those into tablets and you'll really see tablets be what they were suppose to be instead of these toys we currently have (in which you use and eventually just throw away cause they are a novelty piece). Or unless you read on them. lol

yeah when i think cad i think 10" display. oh wait, i think 15 or 17" at smallest. people choose tablets for media consumption/e-readers for a reason. a 10" display is not ideal for doing serious work
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The W700 is different from SP, the keyboard/dock is not going to be as mobile as the type cover but will provide a better typing experience once it is on a desk, Plus it offers a 54 Wh battery which dwarfs SP's 42 Wh.

The one I think will be the main Hybrid Tablet competition of SP is ATIV Pro 700T, It is a little pricer than SP+Type cover(about $1030, 700t is $1100) but offers a bigger screen and battery(49Wh), the draw back is that the tablet(1.89lbs)+keyboard is 3.5lbs, 1 lb heavier than SP+Type Cover(2.5lbs).

I don't think either the Acer or Samsung product is going to outclass the SPro, but they do offer legit competition as does convertiable ultrabooks such as Yoga13/XPS12/ThinkPad Helix etc. Surface Pro is an interesting product, but it is far from peerless.

 

Dude..  I think you are missing the whole point of portability. (derp)   Ease of mobility is the point. How exactly do you lug that Acer keyboard around..? Why?

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Dude..  I think you are missing the whole point of portability. (derp)   Ease of mobility is the point. How exactly do you lug that Acer keyboard around..? Why?

The Acer is just as mobile as the SP when it is tablet mode(2lbs), the keyboard and dock can easily go in to a backpack/suitcase. It is different from the SP and appeals to people wanting more battery life in tablet mode. Not better or worse, but different.

If you want to just fold it up and walk with it then you will be better of with the Samsung ATIV or the SPro ( and I did say that the keyboard/dock is note as portable as the type cover in that paragraph you quoted) but the Acer have the largest battery of the 3 while costing the least($999 with the keyboard) so it does have its merits.
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