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what is with you negative nancies? microsoft is filling an inbetween void, if you dont like what thier doing then move along.

He like the idea, he just think the execution is not perfect(which it is not, yet).
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I think you are missing the point with the surface pro being X86... the transformer is not. I think the pro is a good product i might pick up one and see how it is to use dai:)ly.

I was answering the question in the post I quoted.
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Great concept but this almost feels like a beta release... The next round with a lower wattage cpu should be thinner and have better battery life. Those two aspects could make the Pro V2 a real winner. I'm still tempted to get one for travelling with MS Office but it does not provide anything my slightly cheaper (and higher specced) Ultrabook currently provides.

Also as noted in the article, they really should be bundling the keyboard (at least the cheaper one) with the tablet. Who is going to buy the Pro and not get a keyboard???
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/05/microsoft-surface-pro-review/
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Additionally, when used as a tablet you'll want to steer as far clear of the traditional desktop as possible. We mentioned issues with text scaling, but typing is an issue as well. While there is a virtual keyboard for the desktop, it's wholly separate from the version you get in native Windows 8 apps. It doesn't offer any of the predictive text or autocorrect functionality offered by the (identical-looking) keyboard you get when running an app that plays nice with the tiled interface. Switching back and forth is incredibly confusing and makes typing a real chore.

Finally, just getting into the tablet takes longer than the Android or iOS competition. Hit the power button and you'll have to wait for about three to four seconds for the display to pop on. Then, assuming you've set a password, you'll have to type that in, and secure passwords are rarely fun on virtual keyboards. Login passwords can be replaced by a simpler PIN or even Microsoft's innovative picture login (where you tap on specific areas of an image), but there's no way to tell the OS to only ask for credentials after a certain period of inactivity. If you're the type who likes to quickly pop on your tablet to check for new email or Facebook messages every few minutes, you may find yourself forced out of that habit here.
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We're still completely enraptured by the idea of a full-featured device that can properly straddle the disparate domains of lean-forward productivity and lean-back idleness. Sadly, we're still searching for the perfect device and OS combo that not only manages both tasks, but excels at them. The Surface Pro comes about as close as we've yet experienced, but it's still compromised at both angles of attack. When trying to be productive, we wished we had a proper laptop and, when relaxing on the couch, we wished we had a more finger-friendly desktop interface -- though more native Windows 8 apps might solve the problem by keeping us from having to even go there.

That it offers compatibility with the massive back-catalog of Windows apps gives this a strong leg up over the earlier Surface RT, but the thickness, heft and battery life are big marks against. We're confident Microsoft will keep refining Windows 8 to make the OS as a whole more seamlessly tablet-friendly, and we look forward to testing the dozens of touch-friendly hybrid and convertible devices due this year, but sadly Microsoft's second tablet doesn't have us reaching for our credit cards. Not quite yet.


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Many people have confusedly asked me if the Surface Pro is even a good tablet. The answer is a clear and resounding, “No.” It’s heavy and thick. It doesn’t invite you to curl up with it on the couch. It’s tough to read with it in bed, and it works much better propped up on a desk than it does resting on a knee or in a lap.

And while it’s portable, it isn’t an amazing laptop, either. . . . And with either keyboard attached, the thing is so top-heavy, it’s physically challenging to use on your lap.

So how exactly are you supposed to be more productive with this device if it slows you down in just about every single way?
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/05/microsoft-surface-pro-review/


So how exactly are you supposed to be more productive with this device if it slows you down in just about every single way?

I would say engadget is extremely apple biased they could be over exaggerating some of the issues they have done so in the past. <-- My opinion.
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I would say engadget is extremely apple biased they could be over exaggerating some of the issues they have done so in the past. <-- My opinion.

That doesn't mean what they say is wrong.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/05/microsoft-surface-pro-review/


So how exactly are you supposed to be more productive with this device if it slows you down in just about every single way?

bad tablet and bad laptop replacement. it's the worst of both worlds. office for ipad would be better as well. it's not like you need more power for office than an arm tablet can provide.
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what is with you negative nancies? microsoft is filling an inbetween void, if you dont like what thier doing then move along.

What is the part of this being a discussion forum you don't understand ? People have different opinions and they have exactly the same right to post as you.

As to negative nancies, go tell that to Anand in the first place, my whole post is based on quotes from Anand's review. Heck, according to your logic Anand should just not even have written the review because he apparently has a lot of negative things to say. Come to think of it, if the article didn't exist, then neither would this thread. How about this: we let Microsoft put a big poster in every site saying "Surface Pro is great, buy one now! It is really great.", and be done with it ?
 
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How dare you question the judgement and expertise of Ballmer!
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RE: The Engadget Review
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Additionally, when used as a tablet you'll want to steer as far clear of the traditional desktop as possible. We mentioned issues with text scaling, but typing is an issue as well. While there is a virtual keyboard for the desktop, it's wholly separate from the version you get in native Windows 8 apps. It doesn't offer any of the predictive text or autocorrect functionality offered by the (identical-looking) keyboard you get when running an app that plays nice with the tiled interface. Switching back and forth is incredibly confusing and makes typing a real chore.

No, it isn't.

It really, really isn't.

There are also third party touch keyboards with a craptonne of features/customisations that can completely replace the one provided if needed and do have predictive text on the desktop.
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Finally, just getting into the tablet takes longer than the Android or iOS competition. Hit the power button and you'll have to wait for about three to four seconds for the display to pop on. Then, assuming you've set a password, you'll have to type that in, and secure passwords are rarely fun on virtual keyboards. Login passwords can be replaced by a simpler PIN or even Microsoft's innovative picture login (where you tap on specific areas of an image), but there's no way to tell the OS to only ask for credentials after a certain period of inactivity. If you're the type who likes to quickly pop on your tablet to check for new email or Facebook messages every few minutes, you may find yourself forced out of that habit here.

1.
It takes three or four seconds for the display to turn on?

My ATIV Smart PC pro running the exact same hardware turns on almost instantly?

2.
Well no, typing your password on a touch keyboard won't be fun for everyone, which is why they allow picture passwords....

3.
You don't even need to log in to check for new messages because the messages icon at the bottom of the screen shows messages/how many new messages you have just by turning the screen on.


4.
There's no way to tell the OS to only ask for credentials after a certain period of inactivity?

You can't just wake it and check your emails like you can with other tablets without needing a password?



Really?

Its a WINDOWS PC.....the settings are there.....just like they always have been.....

I guess this is the problem when professional reviewers (or basically anybody in professional media) use nothing but Macbooks in their day to day lives.
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We're still completely enraptured by the idea of a full-featured device that can properly straddle the disparate domains of lean-forward productivity and lean-back idleness. Sadly, we're still searching for the perfect device and OS combo that not only manages both tasks, but excels at them. The Surface Pro comes about as close as we've yet experienced, but it's still compromised at both angles of attack. When trying to be productive, we wished we had a proper laptop and, when relaxing on the couch, we wished we had a more finger-friendly desktop interface -- though more native Windows 8 apps might solve the problem by keeping us from having to even go there.

And when packing your bags, you wish you didn't have a laptop, a tablet and two power bricks to carry.

And when you want to use your laptop while using your tablet on the couch, you wish you didn't have to get off the couch to go get your laptop and vice versa.

Hey, this is fun!

Really though, why are you wishing you had a more finger friendly desktop interface when relaxing on the couch? They put added an entire touch friendly interface right there for you when you press the start button.

I guess the only alternative is to use all those other types of tablets out there that also have touch friendly desktops.....oh wait.....there aren't any alternatives for that.

If you want to use it like a tablet, use the touch friendly part of the OS?


Pretty legit review rolleyes.gif
Edited by GrizzleBoy - 2/6/13 at 9:32am
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