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As a lot of people know, the Toxic was a very high end expensive Graphics card as shown:

http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1157&lid=1&pid=1483

Specification
Output 1 x HDMI
2 x Mini-DisplayPort
1 x Single-Link DVI-D
1 x Dual-Link DVI-I
GPU Default: 1050/1100(Boost)/ Lethal Boost: 1100/1200(Boost) MHz Core Clock MHz Core Clock
28 nm Chip
2048 x Stream Processors
Video Memory 6144 MB Size
384 -bit GDDR5
6000 MHz Effective
Dimension 275(L)x115(W)x52(H) mm Size.
2.5 x slot
Software Driver CD
SAPPHIRE TriXX Utility
Accessory CrossFire™ Bridge Interconnect Cable
DVI to VGA Adapter
Mini-DP to DP Cable
8-PIN to 4 PIN x2 Power Cable
HDMI 1.4a high speed 1.8 meter cable(Full Retail SKU only)
Mini Display Port to SL-DVI Active dongle

Front:


Back:


Box + Card:


Well, it basically disappeared from view a few months ago, nobody has them in stock, or ever expects there to be more despite what Sapphire says. And yet a few months later this was released: SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X HD 7970 GHz Edition 6GB GDDR5

http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1157&pid=1497&psn=&lid=1&leg=0

Specification
Output 1 x HDMI (with 3D)
2 x Mini-DisplayPort
1 x Single-Link DVI-D
1 x Dual-Link DVI-I
GPU Default:1000/1050(Boost) / EZ Boost:1050/1100(Boost) MHz Core Clock
28 nm Chip
2048 x Stream Processors
Video Memory 6144 MB Size
384 -bit GDDR5
6000 MHz Effective
Dimension 275(L)x115(W)x52(H) mm Size.
2.5 x slot
Software Driver CD
SAPPHIRE TriXX Utility
Accessory CrossFire™ Bridge Interconnect Cable
8 PIN to 4 PIN Power Cable
DVI to VGA Adapter
8-PIN to 4 PIN x2 Power Cable
HDMI 1.4a high speed 1.8 meter cable(Full Retail SKU only)
Mini Display Port to SL-DVI Active dongle

Front:


Back: (it really is a different image)


Box+Card:
SAPPHIRE_AMD_Radeon_HD7970_img3.jpg

Well what about the different clockspeeds?I Overclocked mine to 1200Mhz on the core and 1720Mhz Mem stable on stock voltages, and it's not even really getting that much hotter either. They look identical, They can sit on the same clocks, on paper their almost identical too. Could it be, it's really just the Toxic, but under clocked (Less stringent quality control) and removed branding with a for $250 less? I really hope I'm wrong, because I'm cynical enough as it is. sad-smiley-002.gif
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These cards sort of fail because of the poor choice in output ports. 6gb vram and you can't even run three panels off the same port type to remove screen tear? What's the point of the exercise then one might ask? Also, because the card is really triple slot (2.5 to be exact), it's practicality is reduced even more. It looks cool on paper but it rather shoots itself in the foot over the port choices. No fullcover block support also kills it for many enthusiast.
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I actually really like this card, the 2.5 slot actually works perfectly for what I'm going to do with it. It overclocks well, and it demolished the 680 I had before I swapped it out, and was only 50 bucks more then the regular version, I think it was worth it. I just think the Toxic edition was a bit squirrely though. BTW you have some crazy awesome looking rigs specool.gif
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It is most definitely well executed aside from the glaring lack of 6 mini DPs (hell just 4 would be a start even). That really hurts it for it's target audience, eyefinity users.
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Is this one Voltage Locked also?
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I definitely agree they stumbled on the outputs, though with me I'm planning on buying a single 1440p monitor. The 6 gigs makes me feel safer that future games are not going to bottle-net on those vram limits, Metro 2033 I have seen eat almost 2.5 GB vram at times, and this is a game that came out more then a year ago. I wish they could find a freak-en way to combine the vram of multiple cards. As for the performance, I OCed to 1200MHz on the Core, and 1750 On the Mem (Dead Stable) with no voltage modding. I get about on AVG 90FPS on BF3 at 1080p completely maxed out. The 680 I had looks like crap compared to the 7970, and I even clocked it higher. biggrin.gif

I do believe this card is voltage locked, however, considering the design of it, I bet with some warranty busting over-volting you could get some blaring fast OC's on it.
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Though I hate to ask this, is it even possible to use a universal water-block on the Sapphire 7970 Vapor X 6Gig? It's not really a deal-breaker for me, at 100% load it's temps max out at 57C after hours of gaming. I'll just go on WC next time I upgrade to something else.
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I definitely agree they stumbled on the outputs, though with me I'm planning on buying a single 1440p monitor. The 6 gigs makes me feel safer that future games are not going to bottle-net on those vram limits, Metro 2033 I have seen eat almost 2.5 GB vram at times, and this is a game that came out more then a year ago. I wish they could find a freak-en way to combine the vram of multiple cards. As for the performance, I OCed to 1200MHz on the Core, and 1750 On the Mem (Dead Stable) with no voltage modding. I get about on AVG 90FPS on BF3 at 1080p completely maxed out. The 680 I had looks like crap compared to the 7970, and I even clocked it higher. biggrin.gif

I do believe this card is voltage locked, however, considering the design of it, I bet with some warranty busting over-volting you could get some blaring fast OC's on it.


That's cuz the card is already pushing a lot of voltage, up to 1.28v. It's not hitting high clocks on stock reference voltage.
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So your saying Sapphire already professionally over-volted this card at the factory? So shouldn't it make it more reliable then a reference card with a warranty breaking volt mod? (Sorry for all the questions, I'm new to this redface.gif)
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So your saying Sapphire already professionally over-volted this card at the factory? So shouldn't it make it more reliable then a reference card with a warranty breaking volt mod? (Sorry for all the questions, I'm new to this redface.gif)


Many full custom cards come over-volted, that's how they achieve their stock overclocks. I think you were confused giving the impression that it achieved X clock at stock voltage, when in fact it's doing it the way everyone else is. By adding moar volts! Thus it is no different than any other silicon.

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So your saying Sapphire already professionally over-volted this card at the factory? So shouldn't it make it more reliable then a reference card with a warranty breaking volt mod? (Sorry for all the questions, I'm new to this redface.gif)


This sounds a bit like a justification? Typically any overclock voids warranty so your lil overclock already achieved that. wink.gif

If you're asking which is better, I'd have to say that having the control to add and remove voltage as I see fit is better than a stock overclock because I sure as hell am going to go past all factory overclocks anyways so not having the control is worthless to me.
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