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Hmm, my own Asus 7950 DC2 and my friends GTX 670 DC2 both run at 10% fanspeed @ desktop

I havent heard the Windforce X3. I heard the X2 tho, and it was pretty loud in both idle and especially load, after OC..

Windforce X3 and DC2 (non TOP ofc) cost the same where i am (Denmark) so i would pick the DC2 for sure. Backplate and black PCB vs no backplate and blue PCB?

Looks like you already made you mind up before asking for more options. If you like the DC2 already go with it, backplate have limited functionality unless you are careless with the card and PCB color is a personal choice thing, the Gigabyte will come with a higher factory clock and beefier power delivery(6+8 pin vs double 6 pin) but you wouldn't be disappointed with the DC2.
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Looks like you already made you mind up before asking for more options. If you like the DC2 already go with it, backplate have limited functionality unless you are careless with the card and PCB color is a personal choice thing, the Gigabyte will come with a higher factory clock and beefier power delivery(6+8 pin vs double 6 pin) but you wouldn't be disappointed with the DC2.

Well. the ekstra 2 pins gives nothing in terms of OC anyway. Read loads of reviews with both cards, actually 670 DC2 tend to OC higher and it runs cooler and quieter. TPU even says "Limited GPU OC potential" for the Windforce X3 card.

I bet most ppl prefer black pcb and backplate is always cool.

I would only consider the Windforce X3 if it was (much) cheaper than the DC2..
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Well. the ekstra 2 pins gives nothing in terms of OC anyway. Read loads of reviews with both cards, actually 670 DC2 tend to OC higher and it runs cooler and quieter. TPU even says "Limited GPU OC potential" for the Windforce X3 card.

I bet most ppl prefer black pcb and backplate is always cool.

I would only consider the Windforce X3 if it was (much) cheaper than the DC2..

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Thanks for the reply! Any other opinions?

What part of that do you not understand? I have no problem with the DC2, I recommended DC2 for the OP's original question.

You are in Denmark, the OP is in Australia, the price could be different. Your view on color could be different. The Gigabyte card came with a higher factory OC. The Gigabyte card is also thinner given better SLI spacing.
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What part of that do you not understand? I have no problem with the DC2, I recommended DC2 for the OP's original question.

You are in Denmark, the OP is in Australia, the price could be different. Your view on color could be different. The Gigabyte card came with a higher factory OC. The Gigabyte card is also much thinner giving better SLI spacing.

Well , i'd say the Gigabyte x3 would be better for OP's situation , he does after all live in Australia and temps get really high during the summer biggrin.gif He needs the best cooling solution he can get , altough i'd advise getting a reference and a waterblock , water can do miracles thumb.gif
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thats the one thing, dc2 cards have water blocks. so u get water compatibility with out reference design sucks.
the three choices i look at when checking cards is reference, dc2 and lightning as they all get water blocks ( generally) compared to giga which never get a custom block, frown.gif

if u are interested in water, and i highly rocomend it, as a fellow australian i found it the only way to get good temps and im down vic way, so not even that hot.
so water go reference is usally the way and 680 is faster than 670, and then get a water block.
or heck get a reference 670 and water block for the price as the dc2 probs and u will get way better temos ( assuming u have some rads and pumps lying around, if not they are a bit more of a long term investment. )

there is some more opinion.
i would personally go for the 680 reference as it is still the fastest card u have to chose from ( given the options u presented) and if u every go to water, which i highly recommend given our pleasnt summer temps,
best of luck thumb.gif
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Thanks for all the replys guys! I'll try respond to all and take it all in, REP FOR ALL. tongue.gif
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Get the 670 DC2 as it is one of the best cooler out there, odds are you will care about the temperature difference a lot more than the 3-7% performance difference at the same clock.

Cooling wise if the GTX 680 hits 70C it will throttle down 13mhz thus reducing its max overclock, the 670 throttle in the same fashion but with the DC2 cooler you won't be touching 70C.

Exactly the answer I was looking for! The DC2 definitely has me sold.
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Take the 670 DCII, you can OC it to match or even outperform a 680 ref. If you choose the TOP version it will already beat 680 ref out of the box.. And the cooler is much better + backplate is always cool smile.gif

Although the TOP card isn't stocked in aus, i hope to reach it's OC potential! wheee.gif
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The other option IMO is Gigabyte Windforce 670...

I have definitely looked at this card and both these 670's have very nice coolers.
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Hmm, my own Asus 7950 DC2 and my friends GTX 670 DC2 both run at 10% fanspeed @ desktop tongue.gif

I havent heard the Windforce X3. I heard the X2 tho, and it was pretty loud in both idle and especially load, after OC..

Windforce X3 and DC2 (non TOP ofc) cost the same where i am (Denmark) so i would pick the DC2 for sure. Backplate and black PCB vs no backplate and blue PCB? tongue.gif

The aesthetics of the DC2 is very nice.. smile.gif
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Worth , you can OC it to 680 clocks , whisper quiet , cool and i think there was a thread where they were comparing the 670-680 in price\performance and the 670 was the winner smile.gif Get the non top as they are more stable and Have fun with the OC thumb.gif

Thanks for the advice! Totally going to have fun OCing this. biggrin.gif
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Ive got the DCII 670. I love the card. I have it watercooled but the design of it is GREAT! Awesome looking card! Great black PCB, cool backplate too! I highly recommend it! The cooler is incredible! You can lapp the cooler but I don't recommend it because you can ruin the heatpipes if you lapp too much. First thing I'd do when you get the card is replace the screws and thermal paste for the card. The screws have weak springs which don't keep the cooler tight and the thermal paste is WAY too much. Changing those two things out will get you a good 5C drop and you shouldn't hit 65C overclocked. And did I mention, I get 1294Mhz core and +750memory with the card.... SO it overclocks great! thumb.gif

Appreciate the heads up man! PM'd about the screws.
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Well , i'd say the Gigabyte x3 would be better for OP's situation , he does after all live in Australia and temps get really high during the summer biggrin.gif He needs the best cooling solution he can get , altough i'd advise getting a reference and a waterblock , water can do miracles thumb.gif

Down here it doesn't get that hot, usually fairly cool in an old victorian house. tongue.gif
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thats the one thing, dc2 cards have water blocks. so u get water compatibility with out reference design sucks.
the three choices i look at when checking cards is reference, dc2 and lightning as they all get water blocks ( generally) compared to giga which never get a custom block, frown.gif

if u are interested in water, and i highly rocomend it, as a fellow australian i found it the only way to get good temps and im down vic way, so not even that hot.
so water go reference is usally the way and 680 is faster than 670, and then get a water block.
or heck get a reference 670 and water block for the price as the dc2 probs and u will get way better temos ( assuming u have some rads and pumps lying around, if not they are a bit more of a long term investment. )

there is some more opinion.
i would personally go for the 680 reference as it is still the fastest card u have to chose from ( given the options u presented) and if u every go to water, which i highly recommend given our pleasnt summer temps,
best of luck thumb.gif

Not the most experienced of builders so water cooling is definitely awhile off, reckon just air for now. thumb.gif

Think I might just go buy that DC2 670 right now, such a positive feedback!
Edited by Callil - 2/8/13 at 7:57pm
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You will not be disappointed with ASUS cooler.....the quietest cooler ever....
Edited by Sharchaster - 2/8/13 at 8:31pm
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Well. the ekstra 2 pins gives nothing in terms of OC anyway. Read loads of reviews with both cards, actually 670 DC2 tend to OC higher and it runs cooler and quieter. TPU even says "Limited GPU OC potential" for the Windforce X3 card.

I bet most ppl prefer black pcb and backplate is always cool.

I would only consider the Windforce X3 if it was (much) cheaper than the DC2..

Well, I can't find it now, but we did a 'max 670 OC' statistics thread on this board back when Kepler came out, the WF3 and FTW were, on average, the best OC'ers out of the 4 we gathered stats on (we had close to 20 samples of most of these four card models I think). The TOP came in third, and the Non-TOP came in 4th out of these four options. The highest air OC's we saw (the handful that hit 1350+) were pretty much all Gigabyte cards.

So while it's obviously really a crapshoot with Kepler, if you're looking for the best OC'ers, your odds are apparently best with GB and FTW (though that was with the old PCB style). The MSi PE wasn't out yet at that time, so that didn't get included.

I can tell ya from experience the GB is a VERY nice looking card ... not quite as slick as DC2 cause of the backplate, but when you actually see the card in person, or look at it through a case window ... even with the blue PCB, it's pretty dang sexy. The tint of the blue is quite a bit 'deeper' than it looks in most photos on the web. It's almost a 'royal' blue ... and unless your case is really bright inside, it's not really noticeable that it's blue. Check out my sig rig photo for an illustration.

I never have to worry about temps, my card stays well under 70C without making much noise at all, and I don't even have to bump up my power target cause the thing never even gets close to using 100% power (which is due to the extra 2-pins). Even with a 1.212V bios and an OC of 1391, my power usage just barely scrapes 100%.

Not to throw a wrench in the works here, but there's a lot to recommend the GB IMHO ... not biased or anything tongue.gif but I've been really, really pleased with this choice ever since I got the card back in May.
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I had an ASUS DCII TOP GTX 670 for quite a while, and it was a Great card! I'm now using a reference Kepler design, and it's a whole lot noisier (buzzy blower fan), so if you cherish having a quiet computer, go for the ASUS or another non-reference card or else get a different cooler for the reference GTX 680 (additional expense).
   
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Well, I can't find it now, but we did a 'max 670 OC' statistics thread on this board back when Kepler came out, the WF3 and FTW were, on average, the best OC'ers out of the 4 we gathered stats on (we had close to 20 samples of most of these four card models I think). The TOP came in third, and the Non-TOP came in 4th out of these four options. The highest air OC's we saw (the handful that hit 1350+) were pretty much all Gigabyte cards.

So while it's obviously really a crapshoot with Kepler, if you're looking for the best OC'ers, your odds are apparently best with GB and FTW (though that was with the old PCB style). The MSi PE wasn't out yet at that time, so that didn't get included.

I can tell ya from experience the GB is a VERY nice looking card ... not quite as slick as DC2 cause of the backplate, but when you actually see the card in person, or look at it through a case window ... even with the blue PCB, it's pretty dang sexy. The tint of the blue is quite a bit 'deeper' than it looks in most photos on the web. It's almost a 'royal' blue ... and unless your case is really bright inside, it's not really noticeable that it's blue. Check out my sig rig photo for an illustration.

I never have to worry about temps, my card stays well under 70C without making much noise at all, and I don't even have to bump up my power target cause the thing never even gets close to using 100% power (which is due to the extra 2-pins). Even with a 1.212V bios and an OC of 1391, my power usage just barely scrapes 100%.

Not to throw a wrench in the works here, but there's a lot to recommend the GB IMHO ... not biased or anything tongue.gif but I've been really, really pleased with this choice ever since I got the card back in May.

Agreed...
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Intel Core i7 7700K KabyLake CPU @5.0 GHz MSI Z270 Gaming M7 Motherboard MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X PLUS 8G Graphics Card Corsair Dominator Platinum 3000 MHz 16 GB DDR4 
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Plextor SSD 512 GB as OS Drive Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500 GB Hitachi Hardisk 1 TB HDD ASUS DVD RW 
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Corsair H100i Windows 10 PRO x64 Dell 22 Inch DSR @ 2560 x 1440 (from original 1... Logitech G105 Gaming Keyboard 
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Corsair AX760 80+ Platinum PSU Corsair Vengeance C70 Chassis Logitech 
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