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post #11 of 38
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In your shoes I would stick AMD just because it allows a new GPU which is where you will really feel a difference.

Best though would be save longer and get the i5 and a new GPU (or snag a cheap 550ti on fleabay and SLi not ideal but it works)

I am actually really liking the idea of grabbing another 550Ti. I know its still meager by comparison to what members of this forum are used to, but hey, if you could DOUBLE your GPU power for only $100 then wouldn't you?? idk why I was so opposed to it initially. I have a large enough case, PSU, airflow, mobo, why the hell not??

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BF3 will benefit from the "8 cores" of an 8320. Also, I see you have 1080p but use 1050. For some reason I don't know, but from what I searched, its better to use native res with lower settings than lower res with higher settings. I'd assume there'd be some sort of balance to that, but for general purposes, its best to run at native. So since you want to do 1080p and your 550 is choking, get a new GPU for sure. And the only option that allows for that is Option 1. And BF3 will run nice on a 6300 if you want to save $40 and can't put the extra 2 cores to use anywhere else. Though for $40, and the trend to move to multi-threading, if this is a long term build the 8320 will just get better and better as software is coded to utilize more threads. Though how fast this happens and how many cores, I doubt many things will be at 8 threads norm in 2-3 years, so again, $40 can be saved with a still great 6300 if you can't really put the 8320 to use. You'll have a little less power consumption as well, and maybe a tiny bit higher OC, maybe.. (I'm talking like 100mhz or so... nothing mind-blowing).

So yea, considering all your issues, Option 1 seems like the best choice.

I took your advice and scaled back a few settings while running everthing at 1080p, and I have to say you are correct. it was worth it. not sure why I was running 1050, I think I read somewhere that the 550Ti is excellent for 1680x1050, so that's what I went with.

Also the FX4300 is back to running at 4.6ghz, 1.4v, and my CPU usage in BF3 dropped from 98% to about 85% with a few quick spikes to 100% sporadically. I may just keep the FX4300 until steamroller and grab another 550Ti.

Thanks for all the reply's I really appreciate it! thumb.gif
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Hey OP,
I have a very similar build to what you got, a 1045t six core AMD and (currently) two 550ti's running in SLI that I will be replacing with a 7950 in two days when my new GPU arrives in the mail. My advice? Upgrade your GPU, get the Radeon 7950. it will work well with your AMD system and overclocked it matches the GTX 670. IMO you got a pretty CPU. If you ever want to upgrade that, save up for the 8350 because it cost a little more but it is 110% worth it (and I am also replacing mine with it soon)! The 8350 is a great CPU, I want it badly. It supports 1866Mhz RAM, overclocks like a beast, and the benchmarks for it are just fantastic. For you and me both it would be a huge step up.

If you were building something from scratch I would say go to Intel i5 build instead, just because Intel is a little more reputable/higher end. But you got something to go by with the AMD system already. Just upgrade your GPU and from there. If you still have performance problems then upgrade to the 8350 CPU. The 550ti sucks, I guarantee you it is the main cause of your problems. It is in mine. Oh, and one more thing...

DO NOT GO SLI WITH THE 550ti OR YOU WILL CRY YOURSELF TO SLEEP AT NIGHT

Seriously, I grabbed a second one on ebay, second biggest mistake of my life. My first biggest mistake in my life was buying my first 550ti. The 550ti is complete ****. Seriously, I HATE THESE CARDS. I WANT TO SET THEM ON FIRE WHEN I GET MY NEW GRAPHICS CARD. THAT'S ALL THEY WERE EVER GOOD FOR ANYWAY IS OVERHEATING!!!
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Yeah, i would definitely say keep the 4300 for now. Keep it OC'd and get a better card.

7950 if you are buying right now, and if you decide to wait, just save your money. I can't say I would see much of a point in buying a second 550 ti as you still are going to be lacking a great deal.
I play at the same res and with 2 560 ti's in SLI, I can only run things on a high/ultra mix in BF3. I am limited on my VRAM so running MSAA is a no no for me lol.

I would say, if you SLI'd 550's you would be looking at a mix of high/medium settings at an average frame rate of about 50. That is pure guestimation on my part.

Either go 7950, or save and get a better card when they are released (whenever that may be).

7950 is a killer card though.
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Hey OP,
I have a very similar build to what you got, a 1045t six core AMD and (currently) two 550ti's running in SLI that I will be replacing with a 7950 in two days when my new GPU arrives in the mail. My advice? Upgrade your GPU, get the Radeon 7950. it will work well with your AMD system and overclocked it matches the GTX 670. IMO you got a pretty CPU. If you ever want to upgrade that, save up for the 8350 because it cost a little more but it is 110% worth it (and I am also replacing mine with it soon)! The 8350 is a great CPU, I want it badly. It supports 1866Mhz RAM, overclocks like a beast, and the benchmarks for it are just fantastic. For you and me both it would be a huge step up.

If you were building something from scratch I would say go to Intel i5 build instead, just because Intel is a little more reputable/higher end. But you got something to go by with the AMD system already. Just upgrade your GPU and from there. If you still have performance problems then upgrade to the 8350 CPU. The 550ti sucks, I guarantee you it is the main cause of your problems. It is in mine. Oh, and one more thing...

DO NOT GO SLI WITH THE 550ti OR YOU WILL CRY YOURSELF TO SLEEP AT NIGHT

Seriously, I grabbed a second one on ebay, second biggest mistake of my life. My first biggest mistake in my life was buying my first 550ti. The 550ti is complete ****. Seriously, I HATE THESE CARDS. I WANT TO SET THEM ON FIRE WHEN I GET MY NEW GRAPHICS CARD. THAT'S ALL THEY WERE EVER GOOD FOR ANYWAY IS OVERHEATING!!!


ROFL, thanks for the advice. I will learn from your experience and not go SLI 550's!
And yes I actually really like the FX4300. its chewing up my games at 1080p with solid 60fps, a good amount less than 100% load (now that its dialed in to a nice OC)

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Yeah, i would definitely say keep the 4300 for now. Keep it OC'd and get a better card.

7950 if you are buying right now, and if you decide to wait, just save your money. I can't say I would see much of a point in buying a second 550 ti as you still are going to be lacking a great deal.
I play at the same res and with 2 560 ti's in SLI, I can only run things on a high/ultra mix in BF3. I am limited on my VRAM so running MSAA is a no no for me lol.

I would say, if you SLI'd 550's you would be looking at a mix of high/medium settings at an average frame rate of about 50. That is pure guestimation on my part.

Either go 7950, or save and get a better card when they are released (whenever that may be).

7950 is a killer card though.
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So im 100% going option 1, since the GPU is more of a bottleneck than CPU at this point in time. The FX4300 is still weak by some standards, however I think it's a strong contender for my purposes. (until I go FX8350, or perhaps wait until the new Vishera iteration in june).

MANY people are recommending the 7950, ill have to give it a serious consideration. its still a hard sell for me though, since all I've ever owned is ATI cards until this 550Ti, and its strange you know because I feel like ATI cards have a lot more hardware muscle which is severely underutilized by their drivers. on the other side, the Nvidia cards seem to have less muscle, yet they perform awesome.. and all I have to go off of is this low end 550Ti. This makes me want a higher end Nvidia card really bad! debating on either 660 or 660Ti at this point.
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post #15 of 38
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MANY people are recommending the 7950, ill have to give it a serious consideration. its still a hard sell for me though, since all I've ever owned is ATI cards until this 550Ti, and its strange you know because I feel like ATI cards have a lot more hardware muscle which is severely underutilized by their drivers. on the other side, the Nvidia cards seem to have less muscle, yet they perform awesome.. and all I have to go off of is this low end 550Ti. This makes me want a higher end Nvidia card really bad! debating on either 660 or 660Ti at this point.

The cards trade blows, they have pros and cons and no matter which you buy, you will be a happy camper. Either card will be a nice jump from your 550 Ti. And right now, I think the 7950 is cheaper and usually performs better than 660Ti, esp. when OC'd. But AMD had latency issues that makes the 660Ti smoother. AMD is working on it and fixed a few games and only shaved off like 2-3 FPS max IIRC. So yea, they are pitted against one another for a reason.

Either way, you end up with a smile on your face. Enjoy the card!
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post #16 of 38
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I would say, if you SLI'd 550's you would be looking at a mix of high/medium settings at an average frame rate of about 50. That is pure guestimation on my part.

This is correct my AMD setup has SLi 550ti, its not as bad as the guy that figured out how to enlarge fonts makes out but it is far from ideal as you deal with all the SLi issues to get average performance (it becomes tempting when you see how cheap they auction for on fleabay).
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The cards trade blows, they have pros and cons and no matter which you buy, you will be a happy camper. Either card will be a nice jump from your 550 Ti. And right now, I think the 7950 is cheaper and usually performs better than 660Ti, esp. when OC'd. But AMD had latency issues that makes the 660Ti smoother. AMD is working on it and fixed a few games and only shaved off like 2-3 FPS max IIRC. So yea, they are pitted against one another for a reason.

Either way, you end up with a smile on your face. Enjoy the card!

Seems right on to me. Nice to find someone that is giving accurate info about the frame latency issues.

I had looked at the 660ti myself, but with the bus bottleneck it has, compared to the 7950, I am going to upgrade to the AMD side this time. I also plan to upgrade my monitor to a higher resolution too though.

The 660ti is a great card, as is the 7950. I would suggest the ti over the vanilla 660 though for sure. The performance between the two is much more than the similar name would suggest. Especially when you consider how close they are in price.

I would say 660ti or 7950.
I am likely going with this card here myself.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161420

This review helped me when looking at the 7950's.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7950-review-benchmark,3207.html

Enjoy the upgrade. Let us know what you go with and how it is running.
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post #18 of 38
Go with an AMD GPU, far better value.
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I think Option1 is the way to go. I would upgrade your GPU first, then do some testing and see how much the FX-4300 is really holding you back. If your not happy then think about saving to jump to Intel with the better GPU. Not crazy about Option 2 because the GTX550TI is a little weak for solid 1080p gaming, you will have to make some quality sacrifices like running no AA.
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post #20 of 38
you have no interest in switching to ATI?
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