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The successor to the FX-Vishera processors would mostly feature minor IPC improvements through increased clock frequencies.

Uhh?

The only way I can see improved IPC through increased clock frequencies is if they up the CPU-NB frequency and or HTT link speed.
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well glad i didnt go with the FX8350 thumb.gif

This is still Piledriver, so the changes should not be that significant. We don't even know if it's so much as a stepping change yet. It could simply be the FX-8360.

Actually, the FX-*3*0s aren't Piledriver ala Trinity, they're Bulldozer with a few of Piledrivers improvements but lacking others assuming memory serves. (ala RCM)

It's pretty likely that this is real Piledriver, I'd agree that it'd be a refresh but I've heard nothing but "Second Generation Piledriver" and not refresh once, that said I doubt IPC will increase more than 5% if at all, but RCM could be included which could enable higher overclocks and lower power consumption.
    
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Actually, the FX-*3*0s aren't Piledriver ala Trinity, they're Bulldozer with a few of Piledrivers improvements but lacking others assuming memory serves. (ala RCM)

It's pretty likely that this is real Piledriver, I'd agree that it'd be a refresh but I've heard nothing but "Second Generation Piledriver" and not refresh once, that said I doubt IPC will increase more than 5% if at all, but RCM could be included which could enable higher overclocks and lower power consumption.


I wasn't aware of that, I thought socket AM3+ Piledriver CPUs already had RCM and that was what had enabled higher clocks and lower power consumption, thanks for the info.

I just went ahead and checked a few sites and this is what came up on the Tom's Hardware review (where I possibly had gotten this impression):

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Ed.: Originally, this story contained a page exploring resonant clock mesh technology, from Cyclos Semiconductor, which was expected to surface in AMD's Piledriver-based SoCs. Upon discussing this in greater depth with the company, however, "the timing of the products and the implementation of resonant clock mesh caused [the technology] to not be productized with "Piledriver" based processors." As such, we've removed that page to avoid any confusion.


I'm curious to see what they can accomplish with RCM. If memory serves me right, they did have a quote from someone from Cyclos Semiconductor that did say that the optimal range for RCM to be noticeable would be around up to 3.5 Ghz or something along those lines, so thinking back, it makes you wonder if it would add anything to the current Piledriver generation and if it will do anything to the second generation, even more so if they are going to be relying on increasing the clockspeed in order to increase performance, which should fall even more outside of RCM's range of useful operation.
Edited by tpi2007 - 2/6/13 at 6:13am
 
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post #13 of 83
I'm still not expecting RCM till Steamroller, but we'll see.
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I have a feeling this is just a stock clock increase.
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These better be 28nm. For AMD's sake...
    
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Wouldn't this be a good time to launch the 1090 Chipset with PCIE3.0 support(given the controller is on the mobo) ?
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We shall wait and see.

What I like the most though, are the new logos biggrin.gif Although they shall remove the 'elite' stuff.
   
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If it is just a clock increase; MEH, If this will be proper Piledriver with a tweaked arhcitecture; GO AMD!

The 8350 was already a lot better than the 8150. But there is room for improvement. Lets pray AMD gets closer slowly. For all our sake.
 
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Think Ph II...

955 -> 960 -> 965 -> 970 -> 975 -> 980

Refinement is good. Means the process and design are maturing quick enough that they can keep updating their line.

Or we could be completely wrong, but I'm pretty sure if it were a huge step up it'd be "Steamroller", not "Second generation Piledriver". tongue.gif

Exactly. This is no more then a refinement of the current process and slight updates, there will not be big gains at this point until Steamroller. thumb.gif
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I'm curious to see what they can accomplish with RCM. If memory serves me right, they did have a quote from someone from Cyclos Semiconductor that did say that the optimal range for RCM to be noticeable would be around up to 3.5 Ghz or something along those lines, so thinking back, it makes you wonder if it would add anything to the current Piledriver generation and if it will do anything to the second generation, even more so if they are going to be relying on increasing the clockspeed in order to increase performance, which should fall even more outside of RCM's range of useful operation.

Perhaps Resonant Clock Mesh could be used in a way to significantly lower idle draw.
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