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Originally Posted by Socks keep you warm View Post

So.. it's like steam? No big deal, also FYI Microsoft i love you and all but pirates will crack it in the first week.

Um, I'm curious how pirates are going to crack activation codes that are probably going to be 13+ characters. You don't get it. There is no disk to crack. Pirates will be banned from the XBL servers as soon as cracks are discovered if there are any.

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Used games is a big reason why I even have a console. If a publishers DRM for PC is excessive [R*, Ubi, etc.] I would get the console version used. I would also buy some console exclusives new because I wish to support great developers like Insomniac and Naughty Dog. Take away used games and exclusive alone are not enough of a reason to own a console.

BTW, when I tell uninformed console gamers I work with about this, they're all like "Say whaaa....".


Console makers and game publishers are setting themselves for quite a fall because the consumer base is going to shrink. Fewer consoles will be sold and fewer games will be bought by those owners, non-AAA title will be sitting on shelves collecting dust.


Good. That means we'll finally get games that are designed specifically for computers and not ports that are horribly optimized to the point it makes you gag
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post #212 of 319
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Originally Posted by Darkpriest667 View Post

Um, I'm curious how pirates are going to crack activation codes that are probably going to be 13+ characters. You don't get it. There is no disk to crack. Pirates will be banned from the XBL servers as soon as cracks are discovered if there are any.
Good. That means we'll finally get games that are designed specifically for computers and not ports that are horribly optimized to the point it makes you gag

First, they wont crack the activation but hackers will find a way around it and the always-on internet connection. Every console that has used a HDD has been hacked to circumvent all sorts of things, this will be no different.

Second, most likely they'll watch PC sales drop low enough that developers will just begin to move to focus on consoles and we will end up with even more crappy ports becuase they don't care. Not the opposite.
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First, they wont crack the activation but hackers will find a way around it and the always-on internet connection. Every console that has used a HDD has been hacked to circumvent all sorts of things, this will be no different.

Second, most likely they'll watch PC sales drop low enough that developers will just begin to move to focus on consoles and we will end up with even more crappy ports becuase they don't care. Not the opposite.


how do you play a video game that has to be downloaded with an activation code. Hack the HDD all you want. You wouldn't be able to play the new "activation only" games. Do you get that?


EDIT--- heck the games may be cloud in the future and then you wouldnt actually possess the code for the game at all.
 
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You are mistaken I just tested it with the newest client. It should just prompt you to either go online or start in offline mode when steam starts up..

So your agreeing with me? tongue.gif
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First, they wont crack the activation but hackers will find a way around it and the always-on internet connection. Every console that has used a HDD has been hacked to circumvent all sorts of things, this will be no different.
Second, most likely they'll watch PC sales drop low enough that developers will just begin to move to focus on consoles and we will end up with even more crappy ports becuase they don't care. Not the oppositeite.

Hasn't this already happened, with a few exceptions?
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how do you play a video game that has to be downloaded with an activation code. Hack the HDD all you want. You wouldn't be able to play the new "activation only" games. Do you get that?


EDIT--- heck the games may be cloud in the future and then you wouldnt actually possess the code for the game at all.

If you honestly think the cracking community will not find a way then you are only fooling yourself. I can easily see cracked xbox's (without the need for internet) running cracked xbox games (downloaded from a pc or another source).
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So your agreeing with me? tongue.gif

No...I am saying that offline mode works fine for me. Even if I exit steam when I launch it again it will prompt me if I want to stay in offline mode. If you chose offline each time you start a game or otherwise start up steam it will stay in offline mode forever. If the games you have installed don't care you will never need to go online again. Though I know some games do require you to have steam in online mode when you start them.
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Um, I'm curious how pirates are going to crack activation codes that are probably going to be 13+ characters. You don't get it. There is no disk to crack. Pirates will be banned from the XBL servers as soon as cracks are discovered if there are any.
Good. That means we'll finally get games that are designed specifically for computers and not ports that are horribly optimized to the point it makes you gag

Most of the time pirated games are played offline for the Story mode they find a way around having to be online to play.

See Uplay games.
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the only way to block piracy is have half the game on the internet. sim city, diablo 3, WoW. and thats all i can think of. no full game no piracy.

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Hasn't this already happened, with a few exceptions?

And you proved my point for me. Thanks! :-D
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If you honestly think the cracking community will not find a way then you are only fooling yourself. I can easily see cracked xbox's (without the need for internet) running cracked xbox games (downloaded from a pc or another source).

Thanks!
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8gb CoolerMaster Silent Pro Gold 800W Cooler Master CM690 II 
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Win 8 CORSAIR HX Series HX1050 1050W ATX12V / EPS12V ... COOLER MASTER HAF series RC-902XB-KKN1 Black St... 
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WD 2TB Green Samsung lightscribe 22x Sata dvd burner Thermaltake V1 Win7 64bit 
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46" Samsung LED Smart TV MaxKeyboard Nighthawk X8 ABS Tagan BZ700w modular Thermaltake Spedo 
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Razer Naga Audio Technica AD-700's Denon receiver with BA 5.1 speakers 
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i5 2500k Asus P8Z68-V sapphire 7970 ghz sapphire 7970 ghz 
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8gb CoolerMaster Silent Pro Gold 800W Cooler Master CM690 II 
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i7 4770k ASUS MAXIMUS VI EXTREME LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI... EVGA 04G-P4-3774-KR GeForce GTX 770 4GB 256-bit... EVGA 04G-P4-3774-KR GeForce GTX 770 4GB 256-bit... 
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