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How much free space should I leave on such a drive? Any consequences of filling it completely? I already left 10% unallocated OP (whether it's necessary or not).

I'm not only thinking of GC - would completely filling the partition have any impact on performance? For HDDs folks used to recommend leaving 15% free - what was the reasoning there? I never though about it, because I've never come close to filling a drive ever.
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I dont believe you need to leave any free space on your ssd
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With an SSD you can fill it up but it's best to leave roughly 10%.
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How much free space should I leave on such a drive?
as much as you like. 10% as you left is perfect.
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Any consequences of filling it completely?

I'm not only thinking of GC - would completely filling the partition have any impact on performance?
Yea, less space for GC and less consistent speeds.
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For HDDs folks used to recommend leaving 15% free - what was the reasoning there? I never though about it, because I've never come close to filling a drive ever.
As you reach the ends of the platter speeds slow and access times go up. Also, you have more room for defragging.
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With an SSD you can fill it up but it's best to leave roughly 10%.
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as much as you like. 10% as you left is perfect.

So with 10% unpartitioned I can fill the partitioned area to 100% with no consequences?
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With an SSD you can fill it up but it's best to leave roughly 10%.
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as much as you like. 10% as you left is perfect.

So with 10% unpartitioned I can fill the partitioned area to 100% with no consequences?
yea, you could do no OP as there is technically 7% OP anyways with no consequences, however performance will be less consistent.
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Would this unallocated space be best served before or after all other partitions?

I'm looking to to the same but don't want to wait the long hours needed to "move" the partitions haha
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I think Partitions on an SSD are setup within the controller, because SSD's use random blocks, I don't think it much matters where you "put" the partition.
Unlike a Platter drive where a physical section is determined for each partition.
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I think Partitions on an SSD are setup within the controller, because SSD's use random blocks, I don't think it much matters where you "put" the partition.
Unlike a Platter drive where a physical section is determined for each partition.
This, there is no set block location for partition boundaries on SSD NAND. It is virtually set up by the controller.
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The only partition boundary that matters in a SSD is the location (address) of the beginning of a partition, which should be a location or address that is evenly divisible by four. That is otherwise known as partition alignment. Unaligned partitions cause a SSD to have slower write speeds, as it tries to compensate for the bad alignment inflicted upon it by the file system.

Unfortunately, we still (must) use file systems designed for HDDs, that are not optimal for SSDs. All the structures like tracks, sectors, and cylinders for HDDs don't apply to SSDs. SSDs are organized into pages, blocks, and planes (like a geometric plane), and apparently a file system designed with those structures in mind would be more efficient for SSDs.

Actually, the more OP space a SSD has, the better for long term performance. But that also depends on the usage of the SSD. For example, enterprise SSDs have much more factory OP space (meaning not accessible to the user) than consumer SSDs. Intel's latest enterprise SSD, the S3700, has 120GB of OP space, for the 200GB of user space model.

You'll commonly see consumer SSDs with capacities of 60GB or 64GB, 120GB or 128GB, 240GB or 256GB, and 480GB or 512GB. Each pair of SSDs (120GB or 128GB for example) actually have the identical amount of NAND chip space on them, but the lower capacity SSDs have that "missing" space set aside as factory OP. SandForce controllers have two options that may be used with the factory OP space, and until recently required the SSD manufacture using that controller to always have the higher factory OP.
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