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Im going to bump this thread up

I actually took 2 older fans out of my pc and my computer didn't freeze for 1 week and 2 days!!

It just froze again....... =\

Im going to assume this is a psu problem. I'm guessing that with the fans in it was using that extra bit of voltage so when the psu was dropping in voltage it was dropping bellow the required voltage to run the system. I took the fans out and I assumed that this stopped the psu from hitting this point, I'm guessing that if the psu is damaged it has probably gotten a little bit worse since then, and now its starting to drop bellow the required voltage to run the system and this is why its freezing up?

This is just my theory, anyone agree with me on this or have something to add? The pc is only 6 months old so I'm hoping it will be under warrenty.
Edited by imolate - 2/20/13 at 4:58am
post #32 of 41
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post #33 of 41
I would definitely say that a PSU replacement is in order. Get a better PSU this time. Cooler Master is not known for making great PSUs.
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What are your system's most suspect components? Concentrate on them first.
  1. Kingston memory: made from overclocked or no-name chips, not tested thoroughly or strictly
  2. OCZ SSD: people have reported buggy driver software, try running the computer without the SSD
  3. Power supply: that particular series CoolerMaster is generally considered bad

PSU testers aren't very good because the ones without digital readouts aren't accurate enough (one said my PSU was OK when its +12V rail put out only 10.6V, too low to let the HD spin), and they don't load down the PSU enough (about 10-15 watts, total, limited by physical size). It's a lot better to measure the voltages with a digital multimeter (even $3 - $10 ones are highly accurate) while the computer runs. The motherboard's built-in monitoring hardware can't be trusted to be accurate, even in the BIOS setup.

There are only 2 reasons that adding fans can make a computer unreliable: either the PSU is barely able to put enough power, or a fan is generating too much electrical noise and sending it through the system. I've read of just one instance of the latter, involving an aftermarket fan controller whose noise messed up a floppy disk drive.

Swapping parts can be the fastest way to diagnose problems, but swap in only high quality parts. TigerDirect and NewEgg frequently offer 400W - 650W Corsair or Antec power supplies for about $35, after rebate. Use Samsung or no-heatsink Crucial memory because it's very difficult to thoroughly test memory, as demonstrated by all the heatsinked modules that fail in use, and about everything else is made from questionable RAM chips.
post #35 of 41
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computer has frozen 3 times today =\ Im just going to buy a new psu, can anyone recommended me a decent one bellow $50?
post #36 of 41
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computer has frozen 3 times today =\ Im just going to buy a new psu, can anyone recommended me a decent one bellow $50?

No. You wont find a good PSU for $50.

Here's a few good options with similar wattage to your old PSU:

NZXT HALE82 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116018
Corsair TX650 V2 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020
Seasonic S12II - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151096

Going cheap on a PSU is going to get you another crap PSU that will die on you. I strongly advise against it. The power supply is one of the components that needs to be of high quality. If you get a junk power supply and it dies, it could end up taking other components with it.
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post #37 of 41
Have had exactly the same problems you are facing...
changing the PSU did not change anything.
As a system builder i changed everything on this motherboard.
replaced RAM from Corsair to Kingston.
Replaced hard drive.
Reformated System.
Replaced motherboard with exactly the same in box.
Replaced PSU with a 650W coolermaster.
Nothing fixed my problem.
IT IS A MOTHERBOARD USB COMPATIBILITY ISSUE
Asus has placed a bios update begining of month to address the freezing issues.

Quote from asus web site.
P8Z77-V LX BIOS 1603
1.Fixed Power On By RTC function failed.
2.Enhance compatibility with some USB devices.
3.Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

Please follow this link which tells me that ASUS indirectly aknowledges the problem:

http://support.asus.com/Troubleshooting/detail.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&m=P8Z77-V%20LX&s=39&hashedid=wUVREuJSCNu0ys0i&os=&no=981


Hope all this helps... (have been troubleshooting this problem for the past month only to figure out that this is a crappy motherboard)
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Originally Posted by larymoencurly View Post

What are your system's most suspect components? Concentrate on them first.
  1. Kingston memory: made from overclocked or no-name chips, not tested thoroughly or strictly
  2. OCZ SSD: people have reported buggy driver software, try running the computer without the SSD
  3. Power supply: that particular series CoolerMaster is generally considered bad

PSU testers aren't very good because the ones without digital readouts aren't accurate enough (one said my PSU was OK when its +12V rail put out only 10.6V, too low to let the HD spin), and they don't load down the PSU enough (about 10-15 watts, total, limited by physical size). It's a lot better to measure the voltages with a digital multimeter (even $3 - $10 ones are highly accurate) while the computer runs. The motherboard's built-in monitoring hardware can't be trusted to be accurate, even in the BIOS setup.

There are only 2 reasons that adding fans can make a computer unreliable: either the PSU is barely able to put enough power, or a fan is generating too much electrical noise and sending it through the system. I've read of just one instance of the latter, involving an aftermarket fan controller whose noise messed up a floppy disk drive.

Swapping parts can be the fastest way to diagnose problems, but swap in only high quality parts. TigerDirect and NewEgg frequently offer 400W - 650W Corsair or Antec power supplies for about $35, after rebate. Use Samsung or no-heatsink Crucial memory because it's very difficult to thoroughly test memory, as demonstrated by all the heatsinked modules that fail in use, and about everything else is made from questionable RAM chips.

There is nothing wrong with kingston ram. The budget models maybe but the hyper x series typically has an excellent reputation. Op which ram do you have?
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post #39 of 41
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Originally Posted by theo79 View Post

Have had exactly the same problems you are facing...
changing the PSU did not change anything.
As a system builder i changed everything on this motherboard.
replaced RAM from Corsair to Kingston.
Replaced hard drive.
Reformated System.
Replaced motherboard with exactly the same in box.
Replaced PSU with a 650W coolermaster.
Nothing fixed my problem.
IT IS A MOTHERBOARD USB COMPATIBILITY ISSUE
Asus has placed a bios update begining of month to address the freezing issues.

Quote from asus web site.
P8Z77-V LX BIOS 1603
1.Fixed Power On By RTC function failed.
2.Enhance compatibility with some USB devices.
3.Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

Please follow this link which tells me that ASUS indirectly aknowledges the problem:

http://support.asus.com/Troubleshooting/detail.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&m=P8Z77-V%20LX&s=39&hashedid=wUVREuJSCNu0ys0i&os=&no=981


Hope all this helps... (have been troubleshooting this problem for the past month only to figure out that this is a crappy motherboard)

so you are saying its an asus p8z77-v lx MB issue? i will try this asap
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I have updated the bios, this was not the issue frown.gif just froze again.
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