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7950. the thing is, even my 6870 does not stutter in games. zero, well, not metro. just played c3 with it in high settings. love it!

Yea, but my 5870 can do that too. The current issue is mainly dealing with Current GCN cards. 6xxx cards and below do not suffer from stutter.
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single monitor was OK, I had a little stutter but I was trying a smaller Eyefinity set-up with a 5870,
I just decided to go back to nVidia after the entire experience.
I almost got the HD 7870 this time around just go give Radeon another shot, in the end I couldn't bring myself to do it.
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I am in the same boat as OP, thanks for all the replies guys, even you chronic internet debaters biggrin.gif
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He has already bought a 660ti. Game over. Full stop. The decision has been made.

Recent reviews place the cards (the 660ti and 7950) roughly on par with one another in raw performance.

/thread

Where can we find one of these "recent" reviews with actually uptodate drivers?
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Where can we find one of these "recent" reviews with actually uptodate drivers?

http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-geforce-gtx-660-ti-revisited
http://techreport.com/review/24022/does-the-radeon-hd-7950-stumble-in-windows-8/10

These two are old news, but they use the latest drivers that aren't in Beta form

http://techreport.com/review/24218/a-driver-update-to-reduce-radeon-frame-times/5
This uses the latest drivers and places them about on par.
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and I posted the latest benches/charts on the first page....
GTX 660 Ti runs with the 7950 and not the 7870, and over the course of the last few months
nVidia drivers have improved performance (gotten better for Kepler) substantially to say the least.
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http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-geforce-gtx-660-ti-revisited
http://techreport.com/review/24022/does-the-radeon-hd-7950-stumble-in-windows-8/10

These two are old news, but they use the latest drivers that aren't in Beta form

http://techreport.com/review/24218/a-driver-update-to-reduce-radeon-frame-times/5
This uses the latest drivers and places them about on par.

Techreport sicksmiley.png

Also not hard for the 660ti to match or slightly beat a 7950 when with stock boost it is nearly 200-250mhz+ faster.
Tell me with moderate OCs why is the 7950 nearly always beating a moderately oced GTX670?
Go and continue to think your mid range card is anything but mediocre.
Less powerful hardware just for some better drivers, problems is when they fix their drivers they will have the better cards.

Plus GCN gains more per clock then Kepler does, just like Fermi gained more then VLIW
Start overclocking and the 7950 easily gets the crown.

Have fun living in the now for a few months.Though with future games like watch dog and crysis 3, your cards will learn their limits. Loss of ROPs from the gtx670 was not worth it in the 660ti IMO.
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Techreport's thesis was corroborated by Nordic Hardware with the GTX 680 and Radeon 7970.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1340733/nordic-hardware-7970-ghz-vs-680-microstuttering-and-uneven-render-times/0_50

Boost is a part of the architecture. It's how it operates and should be allowed for inclusion because both cards were tested out of the box.

The loss of the Raster units from the 670 does indeed hurt the 660ti, but it's still a very efficient architecture. Shockingly so, in many cases. With half the memory bus (384 vs 192) the 660ti still manages to match the Radeon 7950 in almost every case. (Except for Hitman, lol)
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preach it @ coachmark2.....!
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Techreport's thesis was corroborated by Nordic Hardware with the GTX 680 and Radeon 7970.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1340733/nordic-hardware-7970-ghz-vs-680-microstuttering-and-uneven-render-times/0_50

Boost is a part of the architecture. It's how it operates and should be allowed for inclusion because both cards were tested out of the box.

The loss of the Raster units from the 670 does indeed hurt the 660ti, but it's still a very efficient architecture. Shockingly so, in many cases. With half the memory bus (384 vs 192) the 660ti still manages to match the Radeon 7950 in almost every case. (Except for Hitman, lol)

Implying that the GCN wouldn't do just as well with the same limitations rolleyes.gif
The fact that those limitations don't factor in on most games, current crop of games hardly stress the current gen of cards. Not like they really push a lot of AA in most of these reviews anyway.

Really if they only thing you can say to defend the 660ti is that they go back and forth at stock, then that info is only good for people that only run their cards at stock. The Fact remains that when you start overclocking the 7950 takes the lead. And if a 7950 @ 1200 can beat a GTX670 @ 1300mhz then your really gonna need a golden gtx660ti to overcome the 7950 in the OC game.

You can preach all you want, the 7950 is gonna win the the overclocking game. The 660ti is merely there to make itself look good at stock. It is irrelevant if you have any intentions to overclock, stock vs stock is only good if you leave your cards at stock.

This is OCN, I can assume that most of its users overclock their cards if not just slightly.
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