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Originally Posted by Cloudfire777 View Post

That is 100% pure chinese speculation.

I followed the whole mobile Kepler lineup from speculation to leaks to real reviews.
Chinese people love to make graphs like that to show what they think a GPU will perform like. I saw a ton of those with the mobile Kepler

Which is what I said about the graph
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I believe from what I read it was based on speculation and not an actual bench session

(Translated from Chinese w/ Google)
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Do we think we'll know the full story on this Titan card on launch day? By that, I mean are they going to tell us there is X number for sale, or it is available only in limited supplies, or we are going to sell this card full time, it's just going to cost you 1K?

I am just curious because I might be interested in this card depending on what it can do. If it is really 85-100% the performance of a 690 with 6GB of high bandwidth memory (great for my 5760x1080 res), then I would definitely consider buying one, and only one right now. But, if I wouldn't be able to get a second for SLI later, and if I'm going to have to F5 all night to get one of only 500 being sold in the US or something like that then I'm not even going to bother. I'd want to see some reviews, but if a single one of these could truly be a multi monitor boss with the option to add SLI later I'd be seriously interested.

As an aside, could this be nVidia trying it's hand at a tiered product system such as Intel's distinction between mainstream (Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, Haswell) and entusiast (Sandy-E, Ivy-E)? It could make sense to produce a mainstream line of cards geared towards single monitor gaming and then a higher end line of cards with beefed up memory and such geared towards multi monitor gaming. Maybe this is nVidia trying to get a feel for how it might work out. It's kind of a win win for them if they just have a pile of failed K20 chips laying around they aren't doing anything with anyways.

Here's to hoping these are actually somewhat available and not only to those willing to buy for $2K off ebay or F5 all night on launch day.
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I can see this chip being sold at the GTX 690 segment and a gtx 780 being released with a 20-30% boost over a GTX 680.
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Do we think we'll know the full story on this Titan card on launch day? By that, I mean are they going to tell us there is X number for sale, or it is available only in limited supplies, or we are going to sell this card full time, it's just going to cost you 1K?

I am just curious because I might be interested in this card depending on what it can do. If it is really 85-100% the performance of a 690 with 6GB of high bandwidth memory (great for my 5760x1080 res), then I would definitely consider buying one, and only one right now. But, if I wouldn't be able to get a second for SLI later, and if I'm going to have to F5 all night to get one of only 500 being sold in the US or something like that then I'm not even going to bother. I'd want to see some reviews, but if a single one of these could truly be a multi monitor boss with the option to add SLI later I'd be seriously interested.

As an aside, could this be nVidia trying it's hand at a tiered product system such as Intel's distinction between mainstream (Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, Haswell) and entusiast (Sandy-E, Ivy-E)? It could make sense to produce a mainstream line of cards geared towards single monitor gaming and then a higher end line of cards with beefed up memory and such geared towards multi monitor gaming. Maybe this is nVidia trying to get a feel for how it might work out. It's kind of a win win for them if they just have a pile of failed K20 chips laying around they aren't doing anything with anyways.

Here's to hoping these are actually somewhat available and not only to those willing to buy for $2K off ebay or F5 all night on launch day.

I imagine it will fall into the "limited" production in the sense that the 560 Ti 448 core did, as well as the 590 and 690, i.e. not very limited. Instead of producing 100,000 of them at a time, like they would do with a 670, they might produce 25,000 at a time. I wouldn't be too worried about getting a second one down the road, either from the second hand market or even new, you can still find 560 Ti 448 cores new with some vendors. You have to remember, Nvidia will have to sell enough of these things to justify supporting them for the next 4 years or so, no way they would release so few that after a year of driver support and such they just push them to the side. That would make for bad press and such.

As for the product tiers? I don't see why they wouldn't be considering this route, it has shown to be pretty popular with Intel products. We already know that every batch of GK110 that are to be used for Tesla cards don't make the cut and have to be re-purposed. So instead of just trashing them, it would make complete sense to sell them at the consumer level in some form, which is pretty much what we see with Titan.

"Titan, the handicapped little brother of Tesla! Coming to a gamer near you!"

Of course we will gobble them up, because, why shouldn't we? I am absolutely 100% positive someone is going to get two and go SLi, or we will see tech review sites put up SLi benchmarks of these things. They, even at the low end power estimate, would completely demolish everything we have ever seen.
    
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post #185 of 225
And with AMD possibly not releasing anything this year, there's going to be no competition for it either. I mean, obviously there's no competition from the 8000 series performance-wise, but I just mean alternatives to Titan. People looking to upgrade will go for Titan because it's the only upgrade they're going to be able to do for a while. So, with the chance of no new GPUs from either camp for a while, Titan may very well be more in demand than we think.
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And with AMD possibly not releasing anything this year, there's going to be no competition for it either. I mean, obviously there's no competition from the 8000 series performance-wise, but I just mean alternatives to Titan. People looking to upgrade will go for Titan because it's the only upgrade they're going to be able to do for a while. So, with the chance of no new GPUs from either camp for a while, Titan may very well be more in demand than we think.

Very good input, if the other rumors of nothing new in 2013 do hold true, I see this being 100% the case.

I will have to warm my F5 for launch day usage.
    
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And with AMD possibly not releasing anything this year, there's going to be no competition for it either. I mean, obviously there's no competition from the 8000 series performance-wise, but I just mean alternatives to Titan. People looking to upgrade will go for Titan because it's the only upgrade they're going to be able to do for a while. So, with the chance of no new GPUs from either camp for a while, Titan may very well be more in demand than we think.
People don't NEED a Titan, they want one. (Or two) most games can be ran at max above 60 FPS now. I think people just want 100+ FPS.
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People don't NEED a Titan, they want one. (Or two) most games can be ran at max above 60 FPS now. I think people just want 100+ FPS.

If you're playing at 1920x1080 that may be true, but not at 7680x1440.
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People don't NEED a Titan, they want one. (Or two) most games can be ran at max above 60 FPS now. I think people just want 100+ FPS.

You forgot to add "including me". thumb.gif
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I'm always in awe of the ridiculous assumptions and hopes most people have for these things.

Think of every single flagship GPU release you can remember.

When were any flagship successors ever TWICE as fast or so than the previous?. Never.

It's always appoximately 15-20% extra gain on the things that matter or require it. Higher resolutions and multi-monitor setups typically get the best gains.

Expect the card to perform around 15-20% better than a 680 across the board and don't be disappointed.
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