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The big difference this time around is that the 680 used GK104 instead of GK100. That's why Titan's performance will be significantly more than the 15-20% increase we've seen in the past from architecture refreshes like when we went from the 480 to the 580. The 580's GF110 is a refresh of the 480's GF100. Titan is not a refresh of the 680, it utilizes GK110 which is derived from the GK100 that never got released.

Expect that 15-20% improvement over the 680 when the GTX 780 comes out utilizing GK114. Expect Titan on the other hand to significantly outperform both of these cards.
Considering how far the GK104 in the GTX 680 has been pushed, a more reasonable comparison to earlier history would be a 560 Ti to a 580.
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Considering how far the GK104 in the GTX 680 has been pushed, a more reasonable comparison to earlier history would be a 560 Ti to a 580.

It's really more like a 460 to a 580 in terms of going from a GF104 to a GF110 being analogous to going from a GK104 to a GK110.
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I knew Nvida's small die philosophy wasn't going to last long..... Finally sunk in a high end GPU needs a bigger bus width then 256bit.
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Well good that that chart in green was faked I presume. Would feel really odd to say yeah, don't buy the x80, go buy the TI version ;p

While sure, I probably don't *need* one of these, I'll probably still try picking one up. Capturing fluid gameplay video can still totally slam my FPS but then again it could simply be a limitation of my CPUs and the program.

So without trying to get a headache looking at this thread (Thank you guys for the cleanup), is this correct?

680 > 780 = Will become the "Midrange" card
680 > Titan = High-end enthusiast card
Titan is NOT the 780 and is in it's own class above the x80s
Titan should be roughly speaking, hopefully almost as fast as a single 690.
Folding Performance should be exceptional with the ~3K GK110 cores
Compute Performance should be "better"; exceptional for Nvidia standard but probably still behind Radeons for many things.

Now, we just have to wait on price, legit benches, and availability. I'd imagine for anyone wanting 1080p+ and max details with nothing below 60FPS that this would still make for a good enough value to be worth upgrading to. $700-800 could be stomachable... $1k, I'd rather not.
Edited by The-Real-Link - 2/9/13 at 1:34pm
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I knew Nvida's small die philosophy wasn't going to last long..... Finally sunk in a high end GPU needs a bigger bus width then 256bit.

Amen to that. Screw GreenLight. How about PerformanceLight! Well...they'd have to work on a better name...
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Amen to that. Screw GreenLight. How about PerformanceLight! Well...they'd have to work on a better name...

I like PerformanceLight. thumb.gif
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Amen to that. Screw GreenLight. How about PerformanceLight! Well...they'd have to work on a better name...

No kidding...

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I knew Nvida's small die philosophy wasn't going to last long..... Finally sunk in a high end GPU needs a bigger bus width then 256bit.

On the contrary, Nvidia releasing the big die as a specialty part guarantees that it won't be the 780. Small die is here to stay, at least for 28nm.
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I knew Nvida's small die philosophy wasn't going to last long..... Finally sunk in a high end GPU needs a bigger bus width then 256bit.

On the contrary, Nvidia releasing the big die as a specialty part guarantees that it won't be the 780. Small die is here to stay, at least for 28nm.

I hope they do exactly that. The impression I'm getting is that they're going to split into 2 lines of cards: large, balls-to-the-wall performance dies, and small and efficient ones. The best of both worlds really. The performance crown, and a competitive and affordable line for mainstream gamers. Makes a lot of sense I think. They get to profit off of all the Tesla rejects and claim owning the title in performance, while also allowing devs to push PC games further, to continue competing with consoles and widen the visual fidelity gap. And, while claiming to be #1 in performance, they use that advertising to gain new mainstream customers to their GTX line-up, targeting console-users who want to make the leap to PC gaming.

Just a thought. Seems plausible though. One thing's certain...I'll be up pretty damn late every night towards the end of the month typer.gifyessir.gif
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I hope they do exactly that. The impression I'm getting is that they're going to split into 2 lines of cards: large, balls-to-the-wall performance dies, and small and efficient ones. The best of both worlds really. The performance crown, and a competitive and affordable line for mainstream gamers. Makes a lot of sense I think. They get to profit off of all the Tesla rejects and claim owning the title in performance, while also allowing devs to push PC games further, to continue competing with consoles and widen the visual fidelity gap. And, while claiming to be #1 in performance, they use that advertising to gain new mainstream customers to their GTX line-up, targeting console-users who want to make the leap to PC gaming.

Just a thought. Seems plausible though. One thing's certain...I'll be up pretty damn late every night towards the end of the month typer.gifyessir.gif

Projected prices for the 780 are around 500$, so if we're going to accept 500$ cards as mainstream, might be good for Nvidia but bad for us (consumers).
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