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And what concerns would that be? Motherboard type or VRM'S doesn't affect CPU performance and it never has done.

Or do you want to go into the ASUS M2N-SLI owners club thread and tell them that the Phenom 2 CPU's they're running on unsopprted boards is performing lower then it should? Because they'll all disagree with you.

Motherboard affects overclocking and features, not performance.

And in your book? I would think that I wouldn't have to address such none sense in the first place.

Anandtech Z77 motherboard performance comparison

Legitreviews 890FX vs 990FX

I'm sure that the difference becomes even more apparent when using an even lower end board, such as 870 vs 990FX

Right, so all motherboards perform exactly the same. Please refer to the slew of examples disproving your 'information.'
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post #192 of 210
almighty15... I have one more question for you and then I am unsubscribing from this thread... Are you the guy in the background of this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbMYV8Djt7k
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post #193 of 210
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1. And? The Intel chips are running the same Beta code

2. And? The Intel chips are running the same settings as the AMD chips

3. Never said it wouldn't

4. Stock clocks? The FX chips can't beat the lower clocked Intel parts.

5. VRM count doesn't matter, you should know that.

Ehm VRM count DOES matter, I´ve had 2 4+1 phased boards, one with the AMD 1055T, at 2,8GHz it run BF3 fine, when you tried increasing the voltage even just a little bit, it couldnt really take it and started throttling, and the 2nd one with the 2500k, started throttling in games and stress tests when voltage went above ~1.34V, now I got a quality board and it runs 1,36V everyday without breaking a sweat. Also it is 100% possible that the low quality 4+1 board CANNOT run the 3,6GHz 8 core properly, based on my own expierences it would not surprise me at all.


My point was, that if the 3930k@3,3GHz gets 95% gpu-usage and 2500k/FX8320@stock would get 75%, then 2500k/8320 overclocked @4,5+ would probably get 90%+ usage and the bottleneck would disappear, so the test really only shows that the stock 200$ cpu bottlenecks 1000$ GPU at 1080p resolution and that only cpu that at the stock speeds can properly drive the GTX690, is the 500$ 3930k, surprise?

Like there are several users who own both plaftorms and confirm that the FX8320 is good enough and pretty close to Intels i5s, not sure whats the problem here? Yeah Intel is ahead, but this thread was about FX 8320 bottlenecking or not bottlenecking a high-end single GPU. Real-life, real user tests are much more valuable than the tests you linked IMO (or the review-site tests in general).
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post #194 of 210
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I think most of these intel trolls havent had first hand experiences with these " bottlenecks ". Because most of them just look at benchmarks and assume AMD is crap. I could GUARANTEE YOU if you played on a rig with 7970/680 and a 3570k/8350 you wouldnt see the difference.

I personally feel the same way. I have owned 2500k, 3570k (x3), 3770k(x2), 3820(x2), 3930k(x3), FX 8150, FX 8320 and used all of them with similar cards, GTX 680's and 7970's. No difference that I can tell at 60hzhz, and I'm super sensitive to frame rate changes.

Obviously in the arena of 120hz and super high end multi GPU setups the Intel builds will provide more performance, and I don't think anyone is denying that.
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yes i think we are going no where... the point is to know if the CPU is good enough to push highend GPUs which in fact, it can be done with just a 8320 so much more with a 8350
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Ehm VRM count DOES matter, I´ve had 2 4+1 phased boards, one with the AMD 1055T, at 2,8GHz it run BF3 fine, when you tried increasing the voltage even just a little bit, it couldnt really take it and started throttling, and the 2nd one with the 2500k, started throttling in games and stress tests when voltage went above ~1.34V, now I got a quality board and it runs 1,36V everyday without breaking a sweat. Also it is 100% possible that the low quality 4+1 board CANNOT run the 3,6GHz 8 core properly, based on my own expierences it would not surprise me at all..

Phase quality is what counts, some DFI board only had 4 phases and had no problems at all pushing high clocks on Thuban.

My 4 phase MSI 790FX GD70 on the other hand blew a VRM after only 45minutes of me plugging in an Thuban chip.
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Anandtech Z77 motherboard performance comparison

Legitreviews 890FX vs 990FX

I'm sure that the difference becomes even more apparent when using an even lower end board, such as 870 vs 990FX

Right, so all motherboards perform exactly the same. Please refer to the slew of examples disproving your 'information.'





I see what you meen, leagues apart.
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I see what you meen, leagues apart.

That's just one comparison of many on those two sites. yeah that one's not very different, but you're focusing on one that fits what you want it to be. there are others that show a difference in build quality on the various boards and are pronounced when comparing other features of the board, such as USB transfer speeds. Again, the difference between 890 and 990 chipsets isn't going to be as great as the difference between an older and cheaper chipset and the 990. This is the point that I was trying to make, which you completely overlooked to scour those reviews to find something to discredit my argument instead of listening to what I was actually saying.

Someone please close this atrocity of a thread.
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This could be great material for a review btw. What performance penalties do contemporary AMD processors recieve when used together with older boards/chipsets. After all AMD counts on its socket compatibility. As for the russian site mobo/Crysis 3 bench issue, I think the fact that Linus showed a top 990FX board boosting performance greatly vs an equal 890 board ,in a game based on the same engine as Crysis 3 (Crysis 2/cryengine 3) speaks for itself.
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This could be great material for a review btw. What performance penalties do contemporary AMD processors recieve when used together with older boards/chipsets. After all AMD counts on its socket compatibility. As for the russian site mobo/Crysis 3 bench issue, I think the fact that Linus showed a top 990FX board boosting performance greatly vs an equal 890 board ,in a game based on the same engine as Crysis 3 (Crysis 2/cryengine 3) speaks for itself.

Don´t know if this case is valid, but my nephew went to use this board http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/A770DE+/ to this one http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4397#ov. and from 965BE to 4ghz to x6 1045T to 4GHz,.

In RAGE he has between 15 and 20 fps more


how much of that gain corresponds to the processor and how much to the mobo? I don`t know
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