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Hi everyone! I'm new here, and heard this was a good place to come for some PC advice, recently I have been looking at a lot of parts for a decent gaming PC. Recently started finally make a few decisions, but for the last few things i'm a bit stuck..as I have no clue about SSD's PSU's and what sort of cooling i'd need.. If anyone has a few minutes to check a couple links below, tell me if i'm on the right tracks and if not set me straight, id be very grateful.

I'm planning on buying everything from Aria, and to try cut costs wherever I can, the parts I have selected, I chose as I felt they would be most appropriate to me for the money I want to spend, however if there is a component that is a little more expensive, but worth it, feel free to bring that to my attention!


CPU:
https://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Intel+Core+i7-3770+3.40GHz+%28Ivy+Bridge%29+Socket+LGA1155+Processor+-+Retail+?operation=shoppingBasketAdd&productId=49756&context=superSpecial

RAM:
https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory+-+RAM/DDR3/Dual+Channel+-+%281600MHz%29/16GB+%282x8GB%29+Corsair+Vengeance+Jet+Black+Low+Profile+1600MHz+CL10+DDR3+Dual%2FQuad+Channel+Kit+%5BCML16GX3M2A1600C10%5D+?operation=shoppingBasketAdd&productId=52474&context=

MOBO:(Not sure which of these would be better value for money)
https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards+-+Intel/Socket+1155+-+Intel+Z77/MSI+Z77A-GD65+Intel+Z77+Socket+1155+DDR3+PCI-Express+Motherboard+?operation=shoppingBasketAdd&productId=53348&context=

https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards+-+Intel/Socket+1155+-+Intel+Z77/ASUS+MAXIMUS+V+GENE+Intel+Z77+Socket+1155+DDR3+PCI-Express+Motherboard+?productId=49255

GPU: - Spent a while going through all the 660Ti's, couldn't see much difference between them all, so I eventually went with the cheapest! ( If that was a bad decision feel free to correct me.)
https://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/MSI+GeForce+GTX+660+Ti+OC+2048MB+GDDR5+Graphics+Card+?operation=shoppingBasketAdd&productId=53340&context=superSpecial

HDD: (Have no clue when it comes to HDD's or SSD's)
https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Storage/Hard+Drives+-+Internal/3.5+Inch+SATA+Drives/1.5TB+-+4TB/2TB+Seagate+Barracuda+ST2000DM001+3.5%22+SATA+III+Hard+Drive+?operation=shoppingBasketAdd&productId=48301&context=

Case:(Really just picked one I like the look of)
https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Cases/Midi+Tower/Zalman+Z11+Black+Midi+Tower+Window+Gaming+Case+?productId=53164

Any help/advice is much appreciated!
post #2 of 32
Well first off I would save about 50£ and get the i5-3570k. Just as good performance as the i7-3770k but costs less. https://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Intel+Core+i5-3570K+3.40GHz+%28Ivy+Bridge%29+Socket+LGA1155+Processor+-+Retail+?productId=49755

That ram is good, so keep that.

Motherboard, get the Asus, as a general rule get as much Corsair and Asus products as you can into your system.

Instead of the GTX 660 ti, get this much faster Gigabyte 7950 instead https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Graphics+Cards+-+GPUs/Graphics+Cards+-+AMD/Radeon+HD+7950/GIGABYTE+Radeon+HD+7950+OC+3072MB+GDDR5+PCI-Express+Graphics+Card+?productId=48110

You picked a good HDD, as a general rule, pick Seagate and Western Digital HDD's.

As for the PSU, this Corsair 600w should be great https://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/600W+Corsair+Builder+Series+600CX+80PLUS+Bronze+Power+Supply+?productId=52662


May I ask what the budget is, I might be able to help you out a bit more if I know.
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Agree with ADHD, drop to an i5-3570k and spend the money you've saved on a better graphics card, you'll see a much better performance increase with a better GPU then with a better CPU

Edit: Oh and make sure you get the i5-3570k rather then the normal i5-3570 in case you want to overclock at any point in the future
Edited by GeoWillWalls - 2/7/13 at 3:04pm
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Was aiming for below £850, and is there really no difference between the i7 I selected and the i5? My only concern with that GPU was the shear size of it! As I had looked at that one before.
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Actually I have to change my opinion on the RAM, completely useless to have 16GB of RAM (Take it from a guy who has that much).
Get two kits of https://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory+-+RAM/DDR3/Dual+Channel+-+%281600MHz%29/4GB+%282x2GB%29+Corsair+Vengeance+Jet+Black+Low+Profile+1600MHz+CL9+DDR3+Dual%2FQuad+Channel+Kit+%5BCML4GX3M2A1600C9%5D+?productId=52694 instead. That way you fill up all 4 slots, meaning you would be using quad channel instead of dual, and then you only have 8GB, much better.
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Welcome to OCN mate.

First off, that CPU needs to be changed. The I7 3770 can't be overclocked. Your better off getting an i5 3570k or i7 3770k because those can be overclocked and there is very little difference in price. You only need an i5 3570k for gaming.

The memory, CL10 is quite slow. Most 1600mhz kits, even the cheap ones are normally CL9. Try looking for a kit with timings of 9-9-9-24 as a starting point. The Corsair Vengeance is great memory and if its low profile your after i'm sure it will do you well. You don't NEED 16gb of memory but as its cheap as chips it might work out to be not much more than 8GB. Shop around.

Motherboard, i have always gone for ASUS boards. In my experience as an IT Technician and enthusiast i have found ASUS boards to be very well built and extremely reliable. MSI motherboards on the other hand can be a little hit and miss. I normally recommend ASUS or Gigabyte as an alternative. Your correct going for the Z77 chipset though and both boards look great!

GPU - Very little in it performance wise between manufactures, normally its just the design of the PCB, the cooler and the bundled kit that you need to think about. MSI make good graphics cards and the GTX 660ti would be a good budget card. If you can stretch the budget id highly recommend a GTX 670 though and again i have always gone with ASUS for my graphics cards too.

SSD / HDD - Get yourself a Crucial M4 64GB SSD and install windows on it. Then buy a 1TB Hard Drive to store games and user files such as photos and music. I normally stick with Samsung drives as they offer great realiability, are quiet and can be picked up quite cheap. I personally have the Samsung F3 1TB hard drive and its been perfect.

Power Supply - Most people will turn their nose up at an unbranded power supply because it could protentially damage your hardware if its cheaply made. I'd recommend a power supply by Corsair if possible. A 750w model would be more than enough for you at this stage.

Case - Totally upto you and your taste. Things to consider are generally size, cable management, style, tool less design and cooling.

CPU Cooler - If your going to overclock your processor (which i thoroughly recommend doing) you will need a decent cooler. Don't use the stock one. I can recommend the Corsair H series for this. I have owned the Corsair H50 / H60 / H100 and all have been great.

Hope this helps a little and good luck with your decision and enjoy your new build! By the way, i can see your from the UK...Try Overclockers, Novatech, Ebuyer and Dabs...all four are amazing suppliers.
Edited by Darylrese - 2/7/13 at 3:10pm
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and is there really no difference between the i7 I selected and the i5?

Well it has hyperthreading but gaming you won't really notice any differenceas games are much more GPU intensive. Also in a few cases hyperthreading may cause instability with some applications which is worth noting
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I GOT UNDER YOUR BUDGET! YAY ME!
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/C5As Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£164.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.42 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus V Gene Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£136.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£31.43 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£51.95 @ Aria PC)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP900 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£78.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£235.99 @ Dabs)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£51.80 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £836.56

Those are all great parts, but its not exclusively at Aria, nor does it have to be. If your trying to save money on shipping, you are NOT saving ANY money by shopping all at one place.
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Was aiming for below £850, and is there really no difference between the i7 I selected and the i5? My only concern with that GPU was the shear size of it! As I had looked at that one before.
The only difference is hyperthreading, something that hurts performance in games. Dont worry about the size, that case can handle it!
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One thing...why the MicroATX Motherboard? Are you looking to build a PC with a small case? If not, I recommend going for a full size ATX board for extra slots and also more room between GPU's should you go SLI / CROSSFIRE in future.

The rest of what ADHDadditiv suggested is good though and he is quite right, no need to shop in the same place. Amazon do some cracking deals. I have never used Aria before so cant vouch for them but i can for the others i suggested in my previous post.
Edited by Darylrese - 2/7/13 at 3:19pm
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Wow, thanks alot biggrin.gif

The reason I was buying from Aria, is I have managed to get a couple days off work next week, which is the first time in many months. So was hoping if I ordered from the same place, it would all arrive at the same time, and i'd just be able to assemble it all without waiting for any other parts.

That shopping list looks great! My only query is would 8gb RAM be enough for a while? Or would I find myself wanting to upgrade it? But not having any extra slots...

I have no clue about motherboards really, just saw the chipset, and knew it was a good make..
Also, I would prefer a big nice looking case, I didn't really consider size that much..
Edited by Alphaturian - 2/7/13 at 3:22pm
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