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Advertising. Thats what they are doing differently.

You know I have really never seen one of their TV ads, I have looked them up on YouTube before but thats it. I have seen some ads for them on websites when they did the whole free to play till level 20, other than that it was kinda hit or miss. When it comes to gaming websites I have seen more ads for other MMO games than I have for World of Warcraft. RIFT was heavily advertised, I remember seeing that all over the place. Gaming magazines and websites where filled with RIFT ads for a long time and always posting exclusive stuff about it. SWTOR was another very heavily advertised game across the net and magazines.

I dont want to come across as a Fan Boy for WoW, I hardly ever play it. I get a wild hair once a year and play for a month or two just to explore new features. It has to be more than advertising going for it, even the new SWTOR that was supposed to be pretty awesome has gone free to play and cant keep up.
    
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Why are you playing an MMO if the only thing you can do community-wise is mute everyone? There are plenty of single player games that have better gameplay. MMO's are socially oriented. Cut the social aspect out of the game and all you have is a crappy game with only a small fraction of the playability it was designed for.

Careful with C9 btw, their business model is pretty greedy.Aion, from what I hear, used to have problems with their microtransactions that have been straightened out.

The Secret World's biggest problem was that when released it was a $40 box, $15 a month subscription, plus a microtransaction shop. They've gone F2P now and, from everyone I've heard from, it's mostly fair and the game is worth playing through at least once because the story is more entertaining than most MMO's and the community is more mature.

Lol. I'm not "muting everyone community wise". I just said that I don't give a flying f what people are talking about in the world chat, as long as it doens't concern me. And why should I? And more importantly, why should their topic of discussion have any impact on my enjoyment of the game?
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tera just went f2p
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Lol. I'm not "muting everyone community wise". I just said that I don't give a flying f what people are talking about in the world chat, as long as it doens't concern me. And why should I? And more importantly, why should their topic of discussion have any impact on my enjoyment of the game?

You're assuming it's just world chat. It's not. It's everyone in the game, everywhere. You can't get a group without hearing this and having to watch people cycle through their outfits for 10 minutes, screaming at each other how cute they are.

You prefer costume oriented chatrooms, or games with lots of stabbing? I'm partial to the stabbing, myself.
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You know I have really never seen one of their TV ads, I have looked them up on YouTube before but thats it. I have seen some ads for them on websites when they did the whole free to play till level 20, other than that it was kinda hit or miss. When it comes to gaming websites I have seen more ads for other MMO games than I have for World of Warcraft. RIFT was heavily advertised, I remember seeing that all over the place. Gaming magazines and websites where filled with RIFT ads for a long time and always posting exclusive stuff about it. SWTOR was another very heavily advertised game across the net and magazines.

I dont want to come across as a Fan Boy for WoW, I hardly ever play it. I get a wild hair once a year and play for a month or two just to explore new features. It has to be more than advertising going for it, even the new SWTOR that was supposed to be pretty awesome has gone free to play and cant keep up.

Ozzy Osbourne, Mr T. Commercials, they aired on like 20 channels, for what seemed like 2 years.

And you're talking specifically about your opinion of the game. My comment was about what you said about its population and what makes it different from other games population, nothing about the game play or my personal opinion of it.

After eq2, neverwinter, both had their runs. All I saw or heard was about WOW. Then came burning crusade, and it was a wrap. The hype surrounding the game alone would have carried it at least to wraith. At which point I believe sub's were down something like 30%, but that is probably off. I know that all of my friends, some of which completely stop coming out, all of the sudden quit. And from that point forward only played when new things were added. Most of them having the usual complaints of early adaptors to MMO's.

So, this is why I said what I did. It was marketed like crazy, outside of MMO specific audiences Outside of gaming specific magazines. I remember adverts in guitar player magazine. Which brought in people whom would have otherwise not have even paid attention to the game. The same reason Rift, Tera, FFXIV, and pretty much every pay to play mmo, which saw little marketing outside of MMO circles eventually went down, or free to play.
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If you haven't checked it out yet (since you said you had it in mind), you should look at Dragon Nest. Got it a little over a week ago and I've logged over 80 hours already haha.

I'll be honest, SAO inspired me to play as well haha. I already made a warrior and hit the 50 cap ( You may wanna play Dragon Nest SEA or Dragon Nest China b/c they get the updates and level cap changes faster) and I'm thinking about starting an Elementalist or something.


EDIT AGAIN: Dont waste your time with RaiderZ. It's boring as heck, in my opinion of course. I got invited to the beta (if it was closed, i dont remember) and It pretty much bored me to death lol. Everything is so bland. GW2 is good. I think it was on sale on Amazon, not sure though. Bought it release day and I just got back into it.

I actually tried Dragon Nest, but the thing is, it is heavily instance based and I don't like that lol. I like open worlds tongue.gif

Wouldn't you have a huge ping if you played SEA/China?

I actually did get beta access on RaiderZ and C9, both of which bored me too.

I'm going to try Tera again actually because I like the idea of open action-based combat instead of point and click, and Tera has open action-based combat. I really want to play Blade and Souls and Archage but it's only in korea T.T
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I actually tried Dragon Nest, but the thing is, it is heavily instance based and I don't like that lol. I like open worlds tongue.gif

Wouldn't you have a huge ping if you played SEA/China?

I actually did get beta access on RaiderZ and C9, both of which bored me too.

I'm going to try Tera again actually because I like the idea of open action-based combat instead of point and click, and Tera has open action-based combat. I really want to play Blade and Souls and Archage but it's only in korea T.T

Pretty much all of the newer MMORPG's are instanced. The only remotely recent one I can think of that is only halfway instance based is LOTRO. Only thing I can say is sign up for the ESO beta and wait. Tera gets pretty heavy on the instancing once you get higher in level.

Or, if you can go for an MMOFPS instead of an MMORPG, grab planetside 2. One of the best F2P's you'll ever try, I promise. Just be patient with it, SOE has bigger plans than they do a team to work on it, and it can be really buggy at times because they don't have time to properly test things. Big bugs don't last long though.
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Ozzy Osbourne, Mr T. Commercials, they aired on like 20 channels, for what seemed like 2 years.

And you're talking specifically about your opinion of the game. My comment was about what you said about its population and what makes it different from other games population, nothing about the game play or my personal opinion of it.

After eq2, neverwinter, both had their runs. All I saw or heard was about WOW. Then came burning crusade, and it was a wrap. The hype surrounding the game alone would have carried it at least to wraith. At which point I believe sub's were down something like 30%, but that is probably off. I know that all of my friends, some of which completely stop coming out, all of the sudden quit. And from that point forward only played when new things were added. Most of them having the usual complaints of early adaptors to MMO's.

So, this is why I said what I did. It was marketed like crazy, outside of MMO specific audiences Outside of gaming specific magazines. I remember adverts in guitar player magazine. Which brought in people whom would have otherwise not have even paid attention to the game. The same reason Rift, Tera, FFXIV, and pretty much every pay to play mmo, which saw little marketing outside of MMO circles eventually went down, or free to play.

I didnt know there was an Ozzy Osbourne commercial, I will have to look that one up. I know Blizzard spends massive amounts on ads, personally I saw more ads for RIFT and SWTOR than I did for WoW. Could be that they run ads to a wider audience however advertising aside, the story and gameplay are there. If it wasnt fun then they wouldnt retain the numbers they have, so its worth checking out.

WoW I think is still free to play to level 20, it will give you something to do till Elder Scrolls Online comes out. Though a few of my friends are looking forward to Defiance, its supposed to be tied to the TV Show and a futuristic MMO Shooter. I dont know much about it and YouTube is blocked at work so I cant really watch gameplay videos, its set to launch in April. I have also heard a little about FFXIV from people who only play MW3 and BLOPS games, I am curious to see why they all seem so interested in it. From what they say it was released, then scrapped and is getting re-released or something like that. They arnt the normal gamer crowd so thats kind of interesting to watch them react to the game. You could always just play a slew of games until Blizzards next big MMO comes out, Titan is the project name I think. I dont know how well it will do since it seem like Blizzard is going down hill with the release of Diablo III. Though Starcraft 2: Heart of the Swarm comes out soon and maybe they will manage not to screw it up.
    
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How about PAth of Exile? While not an MMO, it's an ARPG similar to Diablo and Torchlight, it might garner your attention. It's in open beta right now.
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Pretty much all of the newer MMORPG's are instanced. The only remotely recent one I can think of that is only halfway instance based is LOTRO. Only thing I can say is sign up for the ESO beta and wait. Tera gets pretty heavy on the instancing once you get higher in level.

Or, if you can go for an MMOFPS instead of an MMORPG, grab planetside 2. One of the best F2P's you'll ever try, I promise. Just be patient with it, SOE has bigger plans than they do a team to work on it, and it can be really buggy at times because they don't have time to properly test things. Big bugs don't last long though.

Yea I signed up for ESO, just waiting smile.gif

I don't know, I just don't like instance based, WoW isn't really that instance based aside from dungeons, which is perfectly fine for me. But Dragon Nest is nothing but instance and it gets SO repetitive, I got quickly bored of it while playing with my friend, so we both decided to quit after playing for a couple days.

I play PS2 too, well I haven't been on in over like 3 weeks now, the performance issues are too much to deal with. Constant crashing at random times when my rig should handle it 100% fine.

I don't know if that big performance patch came out yet, but until then, I won't be getting back on it soon :/
I got $45 worth of station cash during that triple deal thumb.gif

PS2 is fun, but the performance issues just ruin it.
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