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"Frame Rate" isn't really about the monitor, it's all in the GPU/CPU. If you're getting a 60Hz monitor, you really only need to hit 60fps for an optimal picture.

Look for a monitor with low "response time"...the best gaming monitors are 2ms GTG "Gray to Gray"...don't worry about exactly what that means, find a decent name brand monitor (Asus has some great ones) with 2 or 3ms response time. Anything much higher and you will see "ghosting"...meaning you will see double images or image trails during fast action.

LCD OR LED?
post #22 of 31
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"Frame Rate" isn't really about the monitor, it's all in the GPU/CPU. If you're getting a 60Hz monitor, you really only need to hit 60fps for an optimal picture.

Look for a monitor with low "response time"...the best gaming monitors are 2ms GTG "Gray to Gray"...don't worry about exactly what that means, find a decent name brand monitor (Asus has some great ones) with 2 or 3ms response time. Anything much higher and you will see "ghosting"...meaning you will see double images or image trails during fast action.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+VE247H+23.6%22+LED+LCD+Monitor+-+16%3A9+-+2+ms+-+Black/1965077.p?id=1218303010483&skuId=1965077&st=ve247&cp=1&lp=1


Like that one?
post #23 of 31
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For what you will do with it, basically nothing. The more expensive motherboards have additional connectivity (more SATA ports, more USB ports, Thunderbolt, that kind of stuff), but pretty much any $120+ Z77 motherboard will be able to overclock a Sandy or Ivy CPU to the limit of what the chip can handle on air or AIO water cooling. Don't get wrapped up in power phases and overclocking features because they don't provide any significant practical benefits for "standard" overclocking. There is no reason to spend $200 on a motherboard unless you plan to do some custom water cooling, or need something that only that board provides.

Other good options are the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 or the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H (my recommendation).

I have to disagree with you on the topic of power phases.

While it may not be necessary to spend an exorbitant amount of money for a board with the best VRMs, it does pay off to know what you're getting and to invest in a good, quality board.

For example; You could spend $250 on an Asus Sabertooth while a $140 Gigabyte UD3H is much cheaper and has a superior VRM setup. Even if you're not overclocking, a solid VRM runs cooler and lasts longer than a mediocre one. In a nutshell, you want a board with a quality VRM; regardless if you plan to overclock or not. And that doesn't mean spending a lot of money, you just need to know what boards have what. Research.

With that said I'd avoid the ASRock Extreme4. Compared to other boards in that price category it has a terrible, low-quality VRM. Stick with the UD3H - it's one of the best.
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I have to disagree with you on the topic of power phases.

While it may not be necessary to spend an exorbitant amount of money for a board with the best VRMs, it does pay off to know what you're getting and to invest in a good, quality board.

For example; You could spend $250 on an Asus Sabertooth while a $140 Gigabyte UD3H is much cheaper and has a superior VRM setup. Even if you're not overclocking, a solid VRM runs cooler and lasts longer than a mediocre one. In a nutshell, you want a board with a quality VRM; regardless if you plan to overclock or not. And that doesn't mean spending a lot of money, you just need to know what boards have what. Research.

With that said I'd avoid the ASRock Extreme4. Compared to other boards in that price category it has a terrible, low-quality VRM. Stick with the UD3H - it's one of the best.

So my P8Z77-V is good enough?
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So my P8Z77-V is good enough?

If you want to stay with Asus I'd spend the extra $10 for the P8Z77-V Pro. You're getting a much better VRM with that one. Well worth it, IMO.

Otherwise get the Z77X-UD3H. It's cheaper and has arguably a better VRM setup than both Asus boards. If you don't mind spending more I'd also recommend the Z77X-UP4 and MSI MPower.
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post #26 of 31
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I have to disagree with you on the topic of power phases.

While it may not be necessary to spend an exorbitant amount of money for a board with the best VRMs, it does pay off to know what you're getting and to invest in a good, quality board.

For example; You could spend $250 on an Asus Sabertooth while a $140 Gigabyte UD3H is much cheaper and has a superior VRM setup. Even if you're not overclocking, a solid VRM runs cooler and lasts longer than a mediocre one. In a nutshell, you want a board with a quality VRM; regardless if you plan to overclock or not. And that doesn't mean spending a lot of money, you just need to know what boards have what. Research.

With that said I'd avoid the ASRock Extreme4. Compared to other boards in that price category it has a terrible, low-quality VRM. Stick with the UD3H - it's one of the best.

What I meant is that you don't need to spend a lot of money for a board just because it advertises more power phases. So don't buy the OC Formula just because it has 16 (or whatever it is) power phases because that doesn't directly translate into better overclocking for the average user. Don't buy into the hype, in other words. I never meant anything about VRM quality.
Edited by Forceman - 2/10/13 at 5:50pm
post #27 of 31
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What I meant is that you don't need to spend a lot of money for a board just because it advertises more power phases. So don't buy the OC Formula just because it has 16 (or whatever it is) power phases because that doesn't directly translate into better overclocking for the average user. Don't buy into the hype, in other words. I never meant anything about VRM quality.

Ahh, gotcha.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Looks like we're in agreement. thumb.gif
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post #28 of 31
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UPDATE! I have orderd the pc and here is what i went with

Case: Corsair 500r

MotherBoard: Asus P8Z77-v LGa 1155

GPU: SAPPHIRE FleX Radeon GHz Edition 7970 HD

Power Supply: Corsair TX750w

CPU: i5 3570k Ivy Bridge

RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance (8gb)

Hardrive: Seagate Barracude 1TB

And another question is the 3570k compatible with the mobo?
post #29 of 31
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If you want to stay with Asus I'd spend the extra $10 for the P8Z77-V Pro. You're getting a much better VRM with that one. Well worth it, IMO.

Otherwise get the Z77X-UD3H. It's cheaper and has arguably a better VRM setup than both Asus boards. If you don't mind spending more I'd also recommend the Z77X-UP4 and MSI MPower.

Is the 3570k ivy bridge compatible with the asus P8Z77-v?
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Is the 3570k ivy bridge compatible with the asus P8Z77-v?

Yes.
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