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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post

It's in your head or it's completely the SSD.

There is no difference between a modern AMD and Intel CPU in desktop.


Duckie has the right idea

There are alot of reasons it feels quicker, but the processor probably isn't why.
A new OS install, differences in ram and motherboard (faster sata? better controller? maybe ditched other drives possibly something that was ide?) would most likely be responsible for feeling nimble in desktop.

That said, glad that you are happy with your new rig looks like a dandy smile.gif
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post #22 of 28
But like he said its not a "Modern" AMD vs Intel.

Read his post, and his look at his rigs....
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Originally Posted by nismo_usaf View Post

But like he said its not a "Modern" AMD vs Intel.

Read his post, and his look at his rigs....

He had a Phenom II x6 1100T... and moved to i7-3770K. Boot times and desktop performance are definitely not a result of the CPU upgrade.
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post #24 of 28
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He had a Phenom II x6 1100T... and moved to i7-3770K. Boot times and desktop performance are definitely not a result of the CPU upgrade.
If he says its faster, then it's faster. I don't think arguing with OP will change his mind, even if it is some kind of scientific psychological thing, oh well
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post #25 of 28
Its because now you get to say "Its powered by intel"

Makes you feel faster k. Shopping cart made by porsche would seem fast.
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post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by Shaded War View Post

Just finished assembling my new gaming rig and this thing is huge upgrade from my last AMD system. Everything is so muych faster even though i'm using the same SSD.

I havent even overclocked other than setting my RAM to the rated 2400Mhz and it's already flying past the overclocked AMD system. Now I see why everyone says go Intel. I havent even started a game yet so disregard the crossfire upgrade and it's still a huge difference in just desktop enviroment.

Just a quick bench before I go to bed.

No overclocking CPU / GPU LINK

I noticed a night & day difference when I upgraded from the same processor you had to an AMD FX-8350. Has nothing to do with AMD vs. Intel - you had an old chip, you got a new one. The 1100T and AMD's current chip are generations apart.

I agree with DuckieHo on this because I also understand how hardware and software work. He said he hasn't (or hadn't at time of post) done anything CPU intensive yet. No video encoding, no gaming, no 3D modeling, therefore there's nothing "on the desktop" - including downloading, installing and running a few everyday programs, that would have stressed the 1100T enough to cause it to bottleneck. If it's not under 100% load, it's not slowing anything down.

The difference probably has a lot more to do with an OS reinstall, memory speed/timings, and/or going from a board with SATA II to one with SATA III, as suggested by cssorkinman. Probably a combination of all of those things, but definitely not the processor. In gaming, video encoding, etc., yes the 3770k kills the 1100T, but he wasn't doing any of that.

That said, Shaded War, I'm totally glad you're loving the new rig. I definitely don't want to sound like I'm nitpicking or ranting, I just get a little bit defensive about AMD because everyone seems to love picking on them for no good reason. And often the statements made in threads like this where people are going "Yay Intel! Boo AMD!!" are based on uninformed assumptions and mob mentality, and it can have an impact on AMD's sales. Even people who are Intel fans should want AMD to succeed because they drive Intel's prices to be more fair, and competition promotes innovation.

Aside from all that, enjoy the rig! biggrin.gif
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post #27 of 28
Well the intel chip does more clocks per cycle than the 1100t, so it doesn't have to be stressed to feel the improvement. It's not like the intel chip is only faster when stressed, it's just faster overall.
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There are plenty of reason why boot times might be faster, and most of them will be related to the motherboard or firmware.

With a good SSD the bottleneck actually loading the OS is certainly on the CPU/memory, but loading the OS is usually only a small amount of total boot time, so I'd bet the difference is with the board/bios.
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Well the intel chip does more clocks per cycle than the 1100t, so it doesn't have to be stressed to feel the improvement. It's not like the intel chip is only faster when stressed, it's just faster overall.

More clocks per cycle? Well strictly speaking, the AMD chip has more clocks because it's got more cores. However, the Intel chip does have higher IPC, higher clock speed, and a better IMC.

Anyway, yes, the Intel chip will complete general usage tasks faster, in the cases where it's the bottleneck, but even so, this should not be perceptible. We are talking differences that should be well under a millisecond.

A fresh install of the OS is a more likely culprit for the improved desktop performance.

Intel's SATA controller is also vastly better than AMDs.
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