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It just sits there and beeeeeps. I'll take it down tomorrow and check the back side. I was hoping someone would know something about those squares.? nobody?
Excuse the mess, its work in progress.
post #42 of 75
I noticed you drilled holes into the wall.

GET THAT WALL INTO THE OVEN NAO.

You mean the 7 little squares just below/on the hole right?
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oh haha.. and thats why you always take out the board when drilling/modding in generel. biggrin.gif
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It just sits there and beeeeeps. I'll take it down tomorrow and check the back side. I was hoping someone would know something about those squares.? nobody?
Excuse the mess, its work in progress.

Are your components mounted to the wall? Thats an open case tongue.gif
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You have to remember that most more modern motherboards are multilayer - they can have up to 8 layers of traces, 6 of which you can't see, because they are sandwiched in the board. Theses different layers get connected with things call VIAs, usually the tiny round holes/solder points that seem to be there for no reason. They are actually connecting between layers. Looking at the damage, the chances are that you've shorted one or more layers. I you have a VERY small round file, you could try and clean up the damage to the hole, but really its a last ditch attempt, and could possibly do more damage. Baking will do nothing to sort that type of damage either. (I'm amazed at folk who thing baking will sort everything, rather than just a BGA reflow issue) The squares could be large square VIAs for power, or just island pads that don't actually do anything.

http://www.pcb.electrosoft-engineering.com/04-articles-custom-system-design-and-pcb/01-printed-circuit-board-concepts/printed-circuit-board-pcb-concepts.html

That may make interesting reading for the curious. smile.gif
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It just sits there and beeeeeps. I'll take it down tomorrow and check the back side. I was hoping someone would know something about those squares.? nobody?
Excuse the mess, its work in progress.

Judging by all the holes I see, you seem to get quite drill happy!
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You have to remember that most more modern motherboards are multilayer - they can have up to 8 layers of traces, 6 of which you can't see, because they are sandwiched in the board. Theses different layers get connected with things call VIAs, usually the tiny round holes/solder points that seem to be there for no reason. They are actually connecting between layers. Looking at the damage, the chances are that you've shorted one or more layers. I you have a VERY small round file, you could try and clean up the damage to the hole, but really its a last ditch attempt, and could possibly do more damage. Baking will do nothing to sort that type of damage either. (I'm amazed at folk who thing baking will sort everything, rather than just a BGA reflow issue) The squares could be large square VIAs for power, or just island pads that don't actually do anything.

http://www.pcb.electrosoft-engineering.com/04-articles-custom-system-design-and-pcb/01-printed-circuit-board-concepts/printed-circuit-board-pcb-concepts.html

That may make interesting reading for the curious. smile.gif

Ahhh... I have read motherboard manufacturers bragging about layers, never knew this was what they where for. Make a ton of sense.
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I know you guys have just spent 5 pages of replies to discuss multi-layers etc...


But dude:


YOU DRILLED A HOLE THROUGH YOUR MOTHERBOARD AND IT STOPPED POSTING.



Things that break whilst drilling holes through include: Living things, containers of liquid, glasses, watches aaaaaaaand sensitive electronics.






//Rocketscientist
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I know you guys have just spent 5 pages of replies to discuss multi-layers etc...
But dude:
YOU DRILLED A HOLE THROUGH YOUR MOTHERBOARD AND IT STOPPED POSTING.
Things that break whilst drilling holes through include: Living things, containers of liquid, glasses, watches aaaaaaaand sensitive electronics.
//Rocketscientist

There was already a hole there in the first place. He just had a little boo-boo.

So its not thaaaaat crazy. But lesson learned. Take parts out when drilling? Though I cut a hole out of a mobo tray with the mobo still attached on an old crap comp. Didn't care and surprised a towel over the mobo kept any metal flakes from shorting it.

But yea, be careful with drills.
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always be careful when drilling, if you know what i mean.., biggrin.gif
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