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I don't see the point of this, you could just put a set of 20 3tb drives in raid 10 and have 30tb of space at about 1gb/s. And that would be far more cost effective to use mechanical drives when you start getting into large numbers. Otherwise too expensive.
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Here's a faster SSD at writes (warning, single drive performance ... not 4x raid 0= 1.5GB/s read 1.3GB/s write)
http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodrive2/

Even faster drive (3GB/s read 2.5GB/s write 1.2TB SLC or 2.4TB MLC)
http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodrive2-duo/

Fastest drive (6.7GB/s read 3.9GB/s write 10.24TB or 6GB/s read 4.4GB/s write 5.12TB)
http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodrive-octal/

The 10TB is an awesome value at barely 25% more expensive than the 5 TB: $99,995 => $124,995 Buy it while you can!

The iodrive 2 Duo are the same price at $28,500 and the regular iodrive 2 range from $5,950 to $13,900 (365GB to 1.2TB).
(Solidstateworks is the only distributor for fusionio I could find with prices listed online)

Dell.
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99.999% Of enthusiast products are a total waste for the enthusiast community wink.gif

Enterprise > Enthusiast. They outspend us all combined by several orders of magnitude. I can't think of a single piece of tech that didn't start out in the enterprise and work it's way down to consumers. Enterprises probably have Intel's R&D labs on speed dial.biggrin.gif

And unfortunetly for Kingspec, IODrive has them beat in Enterprise, so this is an enthusiast part. tongue.gif

Seriously, in PCI-e SSD land, anything we see news about here is the watered down backwash of the real thing.
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I stand corrected! THIS IS WHERE IT IS AT:

http://www.storagereview.com/ocz_zdrive_r4_ssd_review

http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodrive-octal/
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In reality, you really should care more for the small file reads/writes as opposed to the large ones like they advertise. Traditional hard drives are actually enough in these sector; once we reach HDD speeds on the small reads/writes is when I'm going to be really impressed.

Um... HDDs suck at small files. Like really really suck. Ever seen random 4k read/writes on an SSD vs an HDD? Access times? IOPS? Anything that would actually matter to small files?
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The only thing that blew me away was the enormous price tag. Even though I always expect a stupidly high price tag with the PCI-E drives I am blown away every time.

It would be nice to see a reasonably priced PCI-E SSD for a change.

Come on! I showed what PCIe SSDs are worth in their dominant market, the ssd of this article is an order in magnitude cheaper than the cheapest SSD of a similar size from fusionIO.

It is not an enterprise class drive, it's consumer. The reason IODrive cost so much more is the same reason Xeons cost more then Core chips and Quadros cost more then Geforce; the level of support and warranty that goes into them.
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thats like your 680 going from $600 to $60 or 90% off e.g never

That will actually happen eventually tongue.gif

The price of SSDs/HDDs does drop a lot quicker than the price of GPUs though.
    
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Come on! I showed what PCIe SSDs are worth in their dominant market, the ssd of this article is an order in magnitude cheaper than the cheapest SSD of a similar size from fusionIO.

So an enterprise-class drive that is priced in the enterprise range somehow makes a 1TB SSD for nearly $2,700 reasonably priced? You could build a very nice rig with SATA3 SSDs for that kind of money. Sure it may be faster than a Revodrive 3 2X while being priced in the same Money/GB range but that still doesn't make it reasonably priced.
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The disadvantage with multiple consumer SSDs instead of a single enterprise SSD:

1. More SSDs = more RAID controllers, which can quickly add up in a server environment.

2. Consumer SSDs are usually not designed to have insane amount of writes to them.

3. Warranties aren't as sugary for the user, which can be a pain in the rear end for an IT department.


As a consumer, I don't see a need for such blazing fast SSD. But it's sure nice to look at. wink.gif
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Um... HDDs suck at small files. Like really really suck. Ever seen random 4k read/writes on an SSD vs an HDD? Access times? IOPS? Anything that would actually matter to small files?

Not unless if you somehow push a HDD to 30K RPM or higher, without shattering the platter due to centrifugal force...
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I don't see the point of this, you could just put a set of 20 3tb drives in raid 10 and have 30tb of space at about 1gb/s. And that would be far more cost effective to use mechanical drives when you start getting into large numbers. Otherwise too expensive.

HDD consume more power and throw out more heat than SSD. When you have hundreds or thousands of them running, that will quickly add up in the electricity bill because of fueling the HDDs and keeping the server room cool. And even then, HDDs tend to perform poorly in random read/write, and a huge cluster of them may actually increase data latency.
Edited by A Bad Day - 2/10/13 at 6:32am
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The disadvantage with multiple consumer SSDs instead of a single enterprise SSD:

1. More SSDs = more RAID controllers, which can quickly add up in a server environment.

2. Consumer SSDs are usually not designed to have insane amount of writes to them.

3. Warranties aren't as sugary for the user, which can be a pain in the rear end for an IT department.


As a consumer, I don't see a need for such blazing fast SSD. But it's sure nice to look at. wink.gif
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Um... HDDs suck at small files. Like really really suck. Ever seen random 4k read/writes on an SSD vs an HDD? Access times? IOPS? Anything that would actually matter to small files?

Not unless if you somehow push a HDD to 30K RPM or higher, without shattering the platter due to centrifugal force...

I should try that with one of my old 10GB HDDs, see what happens.

Anyway, it's not a Enterprise SSD that's listed here, it's consumer. They bolted 8 120GB mSATA SSDs to a raid card and called it a day.
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I find it funny that the review was done by "PCGamer". What PC Gamer would buy that?

There is some guy in the Intel Build Logs section who has spent like $40,000 on his PC, he might have the means to buy such a device.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1266202/build-log-the-big-budget-boomer-box-aka-the-bbbb
 
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There is some guy in the Intel Build Logs section who has spent like $40,000 on his PC, he might have the means to buy such a device.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1266202/build-log-the-big-budget-boomer-box-aka-the-bbbb
Well, he's primarily not a gamer. That's a crazy expensive build, but pretty awesome. smile.gif
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It is not an enterprise class drive, it's consumer. The reason IODrive cost so much more is the same reason Xeons cost more then Core chips and Quadros cost more then Geforce; the level of support and warranty that goes into them.

I think another or the main reason IOdrives cost more is their controller (proprietary? quite likely) that is native PCIe and surely cost a lot of R&D. But obviously directing the product at the enterprise market will drive the price up.
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What are you going to do with those speed (except for commercial purposes)? 

 
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