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Originally Posted by savage1987 
Currently the machine which is failing to impress is a laptop. He understands a great gamer can be had for $1-2K, but as mentioned previously since he gets all his other electronics at absurdly low prices, he's happy to drop a bit more than usual on a tower.
I wholeheartedly agree about looking like a $5k machine, and to that end I'll spend as much time on it as I need to. I'm doing this because it's a passion of mine, not because I want to make money off it
so time spent is really just me enjoying myself. Each piece does indeed add clutter, another reason I'm still in two minds about adding a sound card. I've been updating the OP as we go along - have a quick check and most of the use/aim/requirements are outlined there.
You sure did, and I have been speaking to him via PM about if. My issue with dropping to 2GB is while I'd love to do it to allow an extra card comfortably inside budget, I can imagine the lower VRAM may start becoming a limitation when 3d gaming comes into play. If two 4GB 680s are going to do the job and do it well on 3x1080p, I'll stick with that - for the moment at least.
I hadn't considered unlocked voltages. I guess I just assumed people had worked out how to unlock them on pretty well any 680 by now through BIOS adjustments etc, but I'll adjust the parts list again
All these adjustments are exactly why I like to start planning things a fair way out - not the week before ordering parts!
Once again, thanks for the help guys.
More food for thought - CallsignVega has put the idea in my head of using Ivy. 3770K and a UP7 are a cheaper option than the 3930K, dropping a couple of cores probably won't be a huge issue with gaming being the main focus. I have no hands-on experience with 3d modelling software, video encoding, or any real high intensity CPU work though so it's difficult for me to get my head around this.

Currently the machine which is failing to impress is a laptop. He understands a great gamer can be had for $1-2K, but as mentioned previously since he gets all his other electronics at absurdly low prices, he's happy to drop a bit more than usual on a tower.
I wholeheartedly agree about looking like a $5k machine, and to that end I'll spend as much time on it as I need to. I'm doing this because it's a passion of mine, not because I want to make money off it
so time spent is really just me enjoying myself. Each piece does indeed add clutter, another reason I'm still in two minds about adding a sound card. I've been updating the OP as we go along - have a quick check and most of the use/aim/requirements are outlined there.You sure did, and I have been speaking to him via PM about if. My issue with dropping to 2GB is while I'd love to do it to allow an extra card comfortably inside budget, I can imagine the lower VRAM may start becoming a limitation when 3d gaming comes into play. If two 4GB 680s are going to do the job and do it well on 3x1080p, I'll stick with that - for the moment at least.
I hadn't considered unlocked voltages. I guess I just assumed people had worked out how to unlock them on pretty well any 680 by now through BIOS adjustments etc, but I'll adjust the parts list again

All these adjustments are exactly why I like to start planning things a fair way out - not the week before ordering parts!

Once again, thanks for the help guys.
More food for thought - CallsignVega has put the idea in my head of using Ivy. 3770K and a UP7 are a cheaper option than the 3930K, dropping a couple of cores probably won't be a huge issue with gaming being the main focus. I have no hands-on experience with 3d modelling software, video encoding, or any real high intensity CPU work though so it's difficult for me to get my head around this.
If cost is the issue, the 2x 4GB unlocked cards would be better than 3x something else. Since you need to spend another 1/4 of the cards cost to get it watercooled. The 3770k is a great idea with the UP7, the PLX will slow the PCIe down a little bit, but I doubt the loss would be noticed. The difference would be does the friend want to stream live games (video encoding) which sometimes can be demanding if you do it at high enough resolutions and bitrates. Regardless the 3770k is a great chip, and he wouldn't likely feel underpowered by it. The UP7 would give you the space to expand to 4 cards if he felt he needed more oomph in the future. It all depends really, if some of the rumors are to be trusted, the titan releases in 5 days, and the 780 in 2 months. If those dates are hit, the 780 would be a much better choice as it has 3gb natively.






I thought other games would topple it first but there you go.
You guys really get shafted in PC hardware costs.