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I have to agree with him, Belial:  I thought you were being abrasive or rude or something.  I can't quite put my finger on it, but I know I didn't like it.  The secret is, try to see it from their perspective.  Give them the benefit of the doubt.  Be more understanding.  I'm not sure how else to word it right now.

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post #12 of 51
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Ah, even better. So you bought a board without understanding what you are buying. All budget boards do not have manual voltage control, don't blame the board. The only budget board to have manual voltage control is Biostar boards, because Biostar is awesome like that and the other companies are jerks like that.

I know computers r hard, but there are MANY guides out there on how to use offset voltage. Offset voltage is also desirable for 24/7 overclocks - with manual voltage, you run X voltage 24/7, which just strains your CPU way more. Everyone uses offset votlage for 24/7 overclocks. They might use manual voltage to first find their overclock, as offset changes based on the speed you are at and every chip is different, but it's not a big deal.

Dat attitude.
I never belittle anyone for lack of understanding on something as complicated as this stuff. I have no problem calling someone out for something silly, like complaining about how bad something is when it's their fault they did not research the product before buying.

It's not fair to Asus, who made a motherboard at a low price for people that's still got quite a lot of features for it's price, for someone to just trash it because they didn't know what they were buying.

I'll try to tone it down a notch, but I always offer help, I'm not here to criticize. If people have a problem with how good help is given though, that's a bit silly.

yes you do provide help and I personally wouldn't be offended with how you say things. But some are and that needs to be taken into consideration is all. I know you are very knowledgeable and have great advice, but some people just do not get things when put a certain way.
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yes you do provide help and I personally wouldn't be offended with how you say things. But some are and that needs to be taken into consideration is all. I know you are very knowledgeable and have great advice, but some people just do not get things when put a certain way.

 

This.

 

Take me, for example:  I don't like it when someone talks to me that way.  It makes me want to say, "Why don't you just come right out and say that you think I'm stupid?"

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I did research first. I wasn't supposed to get the M, i ordered wrong one. Then afterwards every where i looked said something different on how to calculate what to actually set it to. Asus says what it its, but doesn't say how to do it. I agree its a nice feature...but not knowing how to properly uses it is just dumb. I up ATX by .04, not changing anything else, get back to window and its up by .1v......if you know how to properly figure it, I'd love to know.i just looked at others settings, and found one of thosE that worked...and i hate that!! That's the reason i come to this site....for help, not to get botched at
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post #15 of 51
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I did research first. I wasn't supposed to get the M, i ordered wrong one. Then afterwards every where i looked said something different on how to calculate what to actually set it to. Asus says what it its, but doesn't say how to do it. I agree its a nice feature...but not knowing how to properly uses it is just dumb. I up ATX by .04, not changing anything else, get back to window and its up by .1v......if you know how to properly figure it, I'd love to know.i just looked at others settings, and found one of thosE that worked...and i hate that!! That's the reason i come to this site....for help, not to get botched at

What are your settings in the BIOS - specifically for the CPU voltage and LLC? Does that board have an option for both an offset CPU voltage and additional turbo voltage (which appears to be a new add for Asus)? Try setting something in the middle of the range for LLC (probably High if it uses names) and then set a small positive offset (using the voltage offset if available, otherwise using the additional turbo voltage) like +0.005 or whatever the smallest value is. Then boot up and put it under load and see what the voltage is. You will probably need 1.35-1.38 for that speed on that chip.

You might also want to post a CPU-Z and Coretemp/Realtemp screenshot under load, so we can see what is happening.
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What are your settings in the BIOS - specifically for the CPU voltage and LLC? Does that board have an option for both an offset CPU voltage and additional turbo voltage (which appears to be a new add for Asus)? Try setting something in the middle of the range for LLC (probably High if it uses names) and then set a small positive offset (using the voltage offset if available, otherwise using the additional turbo voltage) like +0.005 or whatever the smallest value is. Then boot up and put it under load and see what the voltage is. You will probably need 1.35-1.38 for that speed on that chip.

You might also want to post a CPU-Z and Coretemp/Realtemp screenshot under load, so we can see what is happening.

1.32 for a 45x2500K is spot on. 1.35-6 - ~46x

Make sure you disable all sleep states except C1E when using offset (at least initially) Max out short and long duratrion power, limit it to 1 second. CPU LLC at the middle compensation to vdroop. disable internal phase lock loop, leave the stsyem agent on auto, set your XMP and dram volts correcylt (all this is of course after memtest stable). speedstep enabled.

at all times pay attention to temps - your thermal solution will cap the frequency.

If you want to tune stepwise: with offset at the first positive option (prob 5mV) and turbo at the same first available positive mV, set multi at 39, post and boot to windows.. repeat and up multi by 1 until it will post but not boot to wndws. POst to bios, increase turbo 5-10 mV. if it will boot, run p95 for 10 min note CPUZ vcore. repost up the multi by one and add 40-50mV to turbo, not offset! from this point forward each 100 MHz will cost 40-50 mV until you push it over the linear (now non-stock) VID curve. then each 100MHz can cost a bunch more or never work at any setting. When that happens lower CPU PLL and drop temps a few degrees.


edit - oh, by the way, fixed offset is great if you intend to fold or mine. otherwise use offset so Speedstep can do it's stuff.
run the first cycle and tell us how far you got.
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Right nowi have offset +.05 atv .10 multi 46. Prime temp is right around 68-70
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That's a good temp - what's the actual CPU-Z voltage?
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Oh sorry. Bounces between .35 and .40. That another question i have...is that much bounce normal? My c2d would only bounce about .02...
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post #20 of 51
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Oh sorry. Bounces between .35 and .40. That another question i have...is that much bounce normal? My c2d would only bounce about .02...

You mean 1.35 and 1.4? Depending on the load it could be changing that much - when it is running a steady load, like IBT, though it should be pretty stable. Offset is just adding or subtracting voltage from the VID which can change based on the frequency and load, so that's part of why it is bouncing around, the other reason is the effect of LLC.
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