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No need for next gen till next gen consoles release. Otherwise we will go from playing console ports at 100fps to console ports at 250fps. rolleyes.gif
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No need for next gen till next gen consoles release. Otherwise we will go from playing console ports at 100fps to console ports at 250fps. rolleyes.gif

Maybe if you're running a single monitor set-up
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Slowdown in the industry is not a good thing for consumers or businesses.

Is that right? You know, I think this is great thing for consumers. Times are tough, and not everyone can afford the biggest baddest most expensive nvidia card. Even if nvidia releases the 7xx series(which is not even confirmed yet iirc), amd will drop the price of the 7xxx series to remain competitive. Is that not good for consumers? Any 79xx series card will last a good long time, my card plays everything with ease.

And as for amd? Well, this is a good chance for them to spruce up their drivers and perfect their 28nm process, making cards cheaper to produce.

I don't understand why people are so frustrated with this?
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Perhaps theyre just letting it slide for the most part of the year due to lack of demand and new consoles on the horizon? because i think AMD gpus are going nto the new consoles not sure.
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Is that right? You know, I think this is great thing for consumers. Times are tough, and not everyone can afford the biggest baddest most expensive nvidia card. Even if nvidia releases the 7xx series(which is not even confirmed yet iirc), amd will drop the price of the 7xxx series to remain competitive. Is that not good for consumers? Any 79xx series card will last a good long time, my card plays everything with ease.

And as for amd? Well, this is a good chance for them to spruce up their drivers and perfect their 28nm process, making cards cheaper to produce.

I don't understand why people are so frustrated with this?

Exactly, I have a decent job but I'm not always extremely happy about buying a new video card everytime a newer one releases
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Is that right? You know, I think this is great thing for consumers. Times are tough, and not everyone can afford the biggest baddest most expensive nvidia card. Even if nvidia releases the 7xx series(which is not even confirmed yet iirc), amd will drop the price of the 7xxx series to remain competitive. Is that not good for consumers? Any 79xx series card will last a good long time, my card plays everything with ease.

And as for amd? Well, this is a good chance for them to spruce up their drivers and perfect their 28nm process, making cards cheaper to produce.

I don't understand why people are so frustrated with this?


Um... as technology matures and becomes more miniaturized older technology becomes cheaper to produce. That is a fundamental rule of economics. This is why it is BAD FOR THE CONSUMER that they are holding off. They can stagnate prices this way and control the market. With only 2 competitors in CPU (x86) and GPU fields its pretty obvious there is price collusion, especially in the GPU market. Just because there is no solid evidence (phone calls and emails) does not mean that it does not exist.
 
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With only 2 competitors in CPU (x86) and GPU fields its pretty obvious there is price collusion, especially in the GPU market. Just because there is no solid evidence (phone calls and emails) does not mean that it does not exist.

This made me laugh, because in the past there have even been actual emails.

This is from a 2008 lawsuit:

The email, written in 2002, was sent by Nvidia Senior Vice President of Marketing Dan Vivoli to ATI CEO Dave Orton. In it, Vivoli wrote, "I really think we should work harder together on the marketing front. As you and I have talked about, even though we are competitors, we have the common goal of making our category a well positioned, respected playing field. $5 and $8 stocks are a result of no respect."
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/85111-Nvidia-ATI-Get-Bad-News-In-Price-Fixing-Lawsuit
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Not a very good analogy. Comparing refresh rate to a car? wth is that. So you are not an enthusiast unless you have an 120hz monitor? I have plenty of sony crt's laying around that play 160hz? Am I an ultra enthusiast? oops a type-o, you caught me put me in jail, give it a break dude. OH and by the way this is an overclocking forum, not limited to just enthusiast who have tons of cash just to throw at parts.

Yes, I would definitely class a 1080P 60 Hz monitor as not enthusiast and is mainstream. That is what 99% of the displays sold at Walmart are. To talk about Titan in the sole context of such a lowly display is just silly. Most people that spend $1000 on a GPU usually own more than a $150 monitor. And no, your CRT running at 160 Hz means nothing as it only does that at extremely low resolutions. But nice try.
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Always been an Nvidia fan, but I liked some of the AMD cards too.. this sucks.
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i feel like they should push for a Q4 release but honestly I think the 7xxx series is fantastic. I do not mind my 7970 being one of the top cards for another year.
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