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Why are people so worried about the titan. The enthusiast market is by FAR the smallest market there is and as such, yields the least amount of money. So what if nvidia releases the titan? Big whoop. Chances are it will fall short of expectations and nVidia has just, pardon the phrase, blown their load way too quickly. Now you give AMD the upper hand by developing a new GPU and better drivers to match. What does AMD lose? A few million dollars and this false performance crown? They can live with that. And it's not like people are going to stop buying AMD cards. They are great. We also forget to focus on one key aspect. Nvidia is limiting overclocking. Forcing a voltage threshold down the consumers throats is not the best idea. Sure you can circumvent it, but most people don't want to go through the rigamarole. That means as good as TItan is, it won't be able to get overclocked as much as one would hoped. In fact I would guess that it has poor overclocking potential based on the architecture. Take that with a grain of salt though, I'm somewhat speaking out of my arse.
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The number of people who care about over voting a GPU is a small portion of the already small portion of the market that buys high-end cards. It may be something people here care about, but the vast majority of customers doesn't care a bit about the cards being voltage locked.
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The way I look at it is that the upgrades will be staggering when they do decide to release. A full year of them working on it...
The 7000 series has been out for well over a year already.
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Man I hate the mobile double posting.
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This makes perfect sense on both sides of the camp, why would nVidia release the Titan only to do a GK11x refresh a mere quarter later.
 
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Because Titan is replacing the GTX 690 not 680 or 670.

Anyway, this news about AMD not refreshing their cards is total BS. They have no choice if they want to keep up with Nvidia.
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If both companies stopped progress as you guys suggest is "good" for us, then we'd have the same stagnating hardware at the same pricing, perhaps dropping a tad over time due to declining manufacturing costs. We need these companies to be pushing forward to raise the performance level for a given dollar amount. It's not a matter of whether one can afford it since they can always just buy something less expensive.
True, but we also don't need half baked GPU drivers. AMD needs to sort out their 7970 issues first and then release their successors, because throwing your current customer base under a bus isn't good economics either.
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Because Titan is replacing the GTX 690 not 680 or 670.

Anyway, this news about AMD not refreshing their cards is total BS. They have no choice if they want to keep up with Nvidia.
they will only do it if Nvidia decides to be insane and sell Titan @ $600,

680 @ 7870 pricing, 660 7770 pricing.

atm, not possible..
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they will only do it if Nvidia decides to be insane and sell Titan @ $600,

680 @ 7870 pricing, 660 7770 pricing.

atm, not possible..

NVIDIA could possibly do it if they thought that financially crippling AMD's only competent division via a price war would give them an advantage in the long run. Indirectly sending AMD into bankruptcy would greatly increase NVIDIA's profit potential afterwards.
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Because Titan is replacing the GTX 690 not 680 or 670.

Anyway, this news about AMD not refreshing their cards is total BS. They have no choice if they want to keep up with Nvidia.

...under normal circumstances, you would be very right...BUT: AMD is fighting on two fronts (Intel w/CPUS and some vid; NVidia w/GPUs and some CPU) and AMD has had several very tough financial quarters...re CPUs, they have not been able to respond to Intel - not because they don't know how to, but because they can't...perhaps they are facing a similar situation in the GPU space
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