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And thats EXACTLY what iam gonna do NICK! the best name in the world Nick lol- iam nick 2.....Anyway yeah i got the single fan version but iam not planning on keeping it iam looking around what i schould buy...If i dont find a decent 7950 ill probbly get a 6970 one of my all time favirot cards~! And yes I already know the 7950 is faster thx....The ideal thing would be to get a 7970 but $$$$
     
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With the Radeon 8000 series on its way iam hoping the 7000 series prices fall a little bit more....For someone such as myself i kinda like to bargin when it comes to video cards,for its time the Radeon 5970 had ALOT of mucsle-hell u can even game with it today and max most games,I think the ideal card for me would be either a 6970,6990,or a 7950...I personally dont like to follow what everyone else is doing so thats why iam kinda leaning more towards the 6000 series-not to mention they are cheeper to purchase.If I had 2 6970s in crossfire id be a HAPPY MAN ! lol
     
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Keep in mind i went from the following in this order ok....... (2) Radeon 6570s in crossfire mode,(no cf bridge needed) Decent performance for an entery level gamer such as myself....kept them for about 4-5 months and maxed all of the games i play almost.Then I jumped to a Radeon 7770 with the intention of running 2 of them in crossfire but something went wrong...( it didnt overclock well at all) took it back to micro-center...Orderd a Radeon 6870 Hd and BAM almost double the performance of a 7770! Then i orderd a 2nd for crossfire and BAM 60 fps all my games maxed out! Ive had these for about 2 months and for some reason iam getting bored with them (dont know why?) They do very well in crossfire and they scale excelent but as the saying goes you could never really be happy no-matter what u have,always try to improve even more lol.Now id like to run 2 6970s in crossfire see how that goes if iam not happy the prices schould go down on the 7000 series ill just grab 2-7950s and call it a day?! Probbly not you guys know how it is lol!
     
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post #24 of 39
Get two 7950s.

I'll be getting a 7970 myself in a month or so.
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Did you buy that at Tigerdirect? You know they won't give you money straight back. they will give you credit tho. Bought a 660 sc card a month ago. Sucked, so i took it back and got the msi 7870 ghz ed for 10 bucks more. Worth it to.
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Originally Posted by nz3777 View Post

And thats EXACTLY what iam gonna do NICK! the best name in the world Nick lol- iam nick 2

Interesting, I never met a "ima nick 2" before, almost as good as plain ole Nick. tongue.gif
haha just playing with ya! biggrin.gif
Our name does rock! Very simple, people wait all year long for St. NIck!
Edited by Nick7269 - 2/10/13 at 9:55pm
     
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Jeffro they will dude- I just returned my MSI card last week and they gave me the cash back no questions asked....U have 30 days from date of purchase at tiger direct.Maybe they tried stiffing u or something but they did give me my money back i just so happen to want another card so i picked-up a diffrent 6870.Iam taking this xfx back to them sometime this week I dont like it at all! It cant overclock at all! Yes a 7950 is very tempting right now lol- old st nick i tell ya! lol. Let me be clear I went to tuger direct I didnt order through mail maybe thats the policy when u order through the internet but if its a walk-in iam fairly confident you will get your money back
     
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I was reading about a 7870 last night- a card called MYST edition- its supposed to be real bad-ass according to the reviews but I dont know anymore,sometimes when a person has to many choices its not a good thing lol-If money was no object id be sitting on quad-fire 7970s right now but we all know thats not the case! Are u running a single 7870? Iam curious how well they do in crossfire,the myst edition is supposed to keep up with a stock 7950 according to the reviews but u cant believe everything u read now can u lol? All i know is this xfx 6870 is going back haha~
     
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nz3777:

There are three 7870s available now. 7870, 7870 ghz Edition, and 7870 XT.

7870 has 1280 stream processors and is Pitcairn architecture. 7870 XT has 1536 stream processors and is Tahiti architecture. For good measure, a 7950 has 1792 stream processors and is Tahiti, 7970 has 2048 stream processors and more ROPs.

To put it in comparison for you, a 6870 has 1120 stream processors. A 6970 has 1536 stream processors. A 6950 has 1408.

This is what makes all the difference, the stream processor count.

This means that the newly released 7870 XT (which may or may not be that Myst edition card- AMD has only authorized a few manufacturers to make the 7870 XT and with little advertising) is better than a 6970. They also only cost around $250. Here is an example of it: http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1160&pid=1790&psn&lid=1&leg=0

Personally, if I had $600 to spend I'd just get one very high end 7970. I don't have a big enough PSU for Crossfire, and a fast single card is better than slower cards in Crossfire. However, if you really want a Crossfire setup, get two 7950s. If you want to spend a little less and get less performance, get two 7870 XTs. Personally, I wouldn't even consider a normal 7870. It's only marginally better than a 6870, and if the 6870 is overclocked it would probably even outperform a 7870 at stock. (1120 stream processors vs 1280 stream processors isn't a big improvement).

Here's an example of a bad design decision when it comes to Crossfire: a guy in my PC hardware class in college last semester brought in his custom rig for us to see. (I had brought mine in previously too). He had a FX-8150 on a custom loop, and a very nice water setup. However, I looked at his graphics cards, and he had two 7770s in Crossfire. Each 7770 cost him $150. Each one also only has 640 stream processors. So, 1280 total. Your performance doesn't double in Crossfire, and some benchmarks and games don't work with Crossfire and only use one card. I asked him if he knew how many stream processors were in one 7770, and he said "I have no idea, I don't pay attention to that stuff". Put it this way, my single overclocked 6870 trounces his Crossfire setup handily in all games, and I beat him by almost 8000 points in 3dmark06. If he took his $300 and instead of getting two 7770s, just got one 7950, he would have blown my system away. But because he didn't understand the way graphic cards work, he had a garbage system and wasted his money.

Long story short: newer generations of cards are almost always better, check the stream processor count (or CUDA cores for Nvidia), don't Crossfire if you don't have to, a single 7970 is a beast of a card, you probably don't need two.

Hope this helps your decision.
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U know what very well spoken! I like the way u put that! I think from now ob iam gonna tey sticking with 1 gpu... Ive had some cf issues with the drivers and its just a geadache to deal with it! If i can put the mobey together ill go for a 797/ if not ill grab a 7950 abd see how it goes....iam in no way complaining about the fps i am,getting with my 6870s, they are beasts in crossfire i just dont wanna deal with driver issues anymore,my msin game i play is fsx....,only uses 1 gpu!
     
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Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › AMD/ATI › So i feel like an IDIOT returned my MSI 6870 for a xfx core 6870! Shoot me please (lol)