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Thanks liquidzoo and fellow arizonian for your reply. smile.gif

If the 600 Ohms turns a tad to much for the M&M combo then perhaps if I did go with the DT880 Premium, I should go for the 250 Ohms version.

Q. Would the DT770 Pro 250 Ohms be the better choice over the AKG Q701, closed vs open, to bring out a little more of the extra mid-range / bass I'm looking for without giving up to much of the directional sound?

When your gaming can you hear which side sounds are coming from? What are you using to push your DT770 Pro's?
     
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I don't game on my PC, only use it for music and when I work at home.

That said, I currently drive my DT770s (80 Ohm version) just out of my Xonar DG which seems adequate for now. I do plan on getting the M+M combo soon(ish).

I know that the 250 Ohm version of the DT770s have a much tamer bass signature than the 80 Ohm version. I'm not sure how to compare it to the Q701, or any open headphones (other than the semi-open K240 Studios).

Bought both of mine at the Guitar Center in Tempe, and I know they have (or had the last time I was there) the DT990s as well. The Guitar Center website says that they have the DT880s in stock right now too. Go in and test them out.
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I don't game on my PC, only use it for music and when I work at home.

That said, I currently drive my DT770s (80 Ohm version) just out of my Xonar DG which seems adequate for now. I do plan on getting the M+M combo soon(ish).

I know that the 250 Ohm version of the DT770s have a much tamer bass signature than the 80 Ohm version. I'm not sure how to compare it to the Q701, or any open headphones (other than the semi-open K240 Studios).

Bought both of mine at the Guitar Center in Tempe, and I know they have (or had the last time I was there) the DT990s as well. The Guitar Center website says that they have the DT880s in stock right now too. Go in and test them out.

Thanks that was helpful from your info and experience with the DT770's. I may just do that tomorrow being Guitar Center isn't too far from me and I could always pick up a set of drum sticks anyway. It's impossible to find retail stores that carry good components. Fry's Electronics seem to focus on carrying all the consumer 'marketing' head sets. Bose, Beats by Dre....etc.

I'm really leaning toward DT770's 250 Ohms now with straight cord. One thing I do like about the AKG Q701 is the detachable cord that the DT770's don't offer. At the price of $170 though I'm not too concerned and haven't read anything negative about the cord.

Thinking out loud to myself I think closed head phones might be better after all. Thank for letting me know where I can sample a set. thumb.gif
     
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My pleasure. I looked there on a recommendation from head-fi when I was looking for headphones last year. Really glad I did. It's right around the corner from my work, so it's easy to get to and the guys in the Pro Audio department are great.
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Just got back from Guitar Center. Though they didn't carry the DT 770 250 Ohm version I did get to place the DT770 80 Ohm version on my head. Found it very light and felt extremely comfortable to wear. It wasn't properly being driven by amp and told me to try it out on my iPhone. I don't know what they sound like properly amped but I'm positive what I heard wasn't doing them justice and am not basing it on this experience.
     
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Haven't checked your thread in a while.

The DT880 is going to be closer to what the Q701 or K702 sounds like. Did you like what the DT770 sounded like in the store? As long as you were using high bitrate mp3 it's going to be pretty close to what they will sound like even with a proper setup. They might clear up a bit, especially in the bass, but the overall sound signature will be the same.

No difference between coiled/straight, it's just preference. I find that coiled cables can pull a bit if you try to stretch them out, not comfortable.
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Haven't checked your thread in a while.

The DT880 is going to be closer to what the Q701 or K702 sounds like. Did you like what the DT770 sounded like in the store? As long as you were using high bitrate mp3 it's going to be pretty close to what they will sound like even with a proper setup. They might clear up a bit, especially in the bass, but the overall sound signature will be the same.

No difference between coiled/straight, it's just preference. I find that coiled cables can pull a bit if you try to stretch them out, not comfortable.

Hey thanks Dagroove. smile.gif No the store didn't have the DT770 80 Ohms amped nor high bitrat mp3 and I was less than impressed as it seemed weak to me naturally. So I did not get a good sound testing. Physcially I know they are very comfortable.

Reading through OCN's Most Recommened Headphones it says for the comproising gamer I should be looking at Beyerdynamic Premium 880.

Can anyone explain if there that much difference in sound between Premium and PRO? It's $100 difference in price.
     
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post #28 of 59
DT880 pro and premium use the same drivers, it's just the build quality differences. Amazon sells the pro for much cheaper probably because there isn't much demand. The MSRP is pretty close for the two, but the comfort factor and aesthetics are nicer.

edit: I tried looking them up and some people say the difference in comfort is minimal, other complain about it.
Edited by DrGroove - 2/16/13 at 4:36pm
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q701 and k701/702s are really nice.... but I don't know about the k701/702s, but the q701s just dig into my head like it's going out of fashion.
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After being pointed in the right direction. I'm back after doing some homework.

Looking at a gaming head set where I can still tell sound positioning but get as much mid-range with slight bass as I can without covering up the positional sound too much. In other words between gaming and music.

So I'm getting a better understanding of the differences between the Beyerdynamics DT880, DT770, & DT990.

1. I think the DT880 being the most neutral with a tad more mid-range and bass than the DT770 and not as playful as the DT990. Out of the three the Beyerdynamics DT880 Premium 600 Ohm seems to be the one that might fit my needs best.

Q. Is the DT880 Premium a good choice for positional sound and music combo out of the DT line?
Q. Will the Schiit magni / modi combo fully power the DT880 600 Ohm bringing out it's full potential?

2. Next one is the AKG Q701 Quincy Jones which I'm learning what taboo it is to have a name branded on a head set, yet among audiophiles this one seems to be the only exception. Seems to be the cream of the crop for positional sound but I fear it might be a tad too much for music.

Q. Is there a big difference in mid-range / bass sound between the AKG Q701 compared to the DT880 600 Ohm?

3. I did look at the Audio Technica A700 and regardless of what sound they put out the 'pleather' style head set is not for me.

The price difference DT880 $350 and AKG Q701 $235 I'm finding is high enough for me to wonder if the AKG Q701 would work or should I shell it out and go for the DT880.

Q. I'm wondering if the DT770 is closer to the AKG Q701 sound and which out of the DT770 or AKG Q701 would work better if I did compare them being much closer in price?

I think I've got it narrowed down now to the final three possibilities. From what I've been reading the Beyerdyniamic DT series is more comfortable after longer hours of use over the AKG Q701. I think $350 is a lot to pay for a gaming head set though. My longest sitting might be up to four hours.

I'm guessing correctly: DT880 Premium > AKG Q701 > DT770 Pro for the sound I'm looking for.

1) None of the DTs have good enough sound stage in my opinion. But at the same time enough people seem to like them, so it might just be a 'me' thing.

The bass of the music is pretty good but a lot of people feel that the bass overflows and does harm to the highs. I can hear what people are talking about, but at the same time it isn't a deal breaker.

The schiit stack (modi and magni) will be powerful enough.

2) I use the AKG Q701s. Here is the deal with them. They do lack the mids and lows, but these headphones are also really forgiving to equalizing. So I give them a slight bass boost and they sound great. The other thing is they LOVE vacuum tubes. If you ever upgrade wayyyyy down the line to tubes, you will be glad you got the Q701s.

Is there a big difference between the Q701s and the DT880s YES. There is a massive difference. But it isn't a matter of which one is better or worse as much as it is an apples to oranges paradox. The DT880s have the better bass, but the Q701s have the better highs. Dt880s are a bit stuffy, the Q701s are a bit harsh. The only reason I prefer the Q701s is because they seem to be a bit more manageable with equalization.

3) The DT 770s shouldn't even be on the list. They are lower end closed headphones. Don't get me wrong, they do sound pretty good. But you would be better off going with warmer open headphones than going with bass heavy closed headphones.

I also want to add, if you don't mind used headphones, or if you don't mind shelling out 400 for headphones, the Hifiman HE-400 or the sennheiser HD600s are both excellent headphones and beat the crap out of anything we are even comparing. I would personally go for the HE-400s if possible. You will have to get used to them since they don't use dynamic drivers like all the other headphones, but once you do, they are really good.
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