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But think of all the retraining time/costs to teach people to use anything that isn't a direct evolution of Windows XP.

Its literally impossible.

Not really you just need a VERY implicit ui with no hidden menu other than maybe right click. I found Lubuntu almost ignorant proof, almost. Average joe certainly wouldn't have any issue finding the internet browser.


>menu>internetbrowser>internet>profit.
Edited by cdoublejj - 2/11/13 at 12:20pm
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AMD Is the way forward for a Steambox, Intel is a epic fail, they have no where near what AMD has with APU's

Relative merits of the processors aside, AMD is the reason that Intel is suddenly developing an interest in Linux gaming. It's a method of damage control.

They know full well that AMD scored a big win with designing Orbis and Durango. Any direct or near-total console ports from those systems ought to run well on AMD processors, and if Steambox becomes sucessful, that's even more of a liability for Intel because people can always recompile and add the bdver flags that increase AMD's performance. Gaming is one of the i5/i7's strengths, and eliminating that strength means the only place where Intel soundly defeats Intel AMD is raw single-core performance.
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Relative merits of the processors aside, AMD is the reason that intel Intel is suddenly developing an interest in Linux gaming. It's a method of damage control.

They know full well that AMD scored a big win with designing Orbis and Durango. Any direct or near-total console ports from those systems ought to run well on AMD processors, and if Steambox becomes sucessful, that's even more of a liability for Intel because people can always recompile and add the bdver flags that increase AMD's performance. Gaming is one of the i5/i7's strengths, and eliminating that strength means the only place where Intel soundly defeats Intel is raw single-core performance.

I think you meant Intel beating AMD (in sngle thread), but anyway no normal person buys i7s for gaming anyway. The main hit would to be to the i5s, because anyone not using i5 or above is likely not gaming on their PC anyhow and i3s can be trounced by overclocked $130 AMD FX CPUs and FM2 APUs even more so when only the iGPU is a factor.

If HSA catches on, then AMD will have another hit like the AMD64.wink.gif
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arch is always my favorite as my main os. If it can play crysis 3 and whatsoever gpu killer, we will have windows 8 pro under 40 bucks:p
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Linux gaming will never happen they say, No-one will support it they kept saying.... wonder what's happening now.
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What are you on about, now? What costs? The start menu is replaced by the start screen in Win8, functionally the desktop is identical. There is no retraining there from Win7--->Win8, and Win8 runs everything from Windows still. It's great! Wake me up when Windows becomes too expensive in any way, shape, or form, Zbrush/Photoshop/etc. run on Linux natively, Visual Studio runs on Linux as well as my other dev tools, games run mostly, and it's as easy to use as Windows. Every year, you guys proclaim "IT'S THE YEAR OF LINUX ON THE DESKTOP!" and every year, it isn't... tongue.gif .

I like how its so good that Windows 8 is different because it's not using the same tired old concepts from Windows 95, yet it's functionally identical right? rolleyes.gif
If you truly think the amount of people who used the start menu is small, think again...There's also other fundamental changes that some users will hate. (eg. Ribbon on Explorer)
As for being easier to use...Lol nope, maybe it is when you start fresh from PCs (I doubt it though) but when you're talking a work environment you most certainly are not talking someone who has never used a PC before, and every year being the year of Linux on the desktop? Care to prove that? Apart from a few hopeful fanboys posting it all the time, of course.
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What are you on about, now? What costs?

It's an on going argument between me and Grizzle about Windows 8 in the business world.

I knew his comments were made to intentionally bait me into the response I gave him. So I figured I'm make his day and give him his expected answer. wink.gif

Sadly, I bet he thinks that this now justifies what he said about Windows 8, but unfortunately he is the type of person who will completely ignore what I said and miss the point ... "The difference being that once it's done, it's done. Since Linux is open source and can have it's shell EASILY replaced, you don't have to worry about what Microsoft will try to force down your throat GUI wise with the next iteration of Windows."

As someone said once: "This thread has been Grizzled"
    
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Ugh, too many ignorant trolls in here.

I'm amazed that no-one has written a simple little library/app that pulls in all the data games would need, and centralises it into one API. That must be what existing devs do, but it's a real pain in the rear (as clear from the Intel guy's comments). I'm surprised that some other dev hasn't picked it up and provided it - kinda like a skeleton, open-source DirectX API. "Skeleton" in that it wouldn't actually provide the rendering & calculation functions, it would just host the necessary information needed for the app to engage with the other parts (like OpenGL)
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