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a full PC on the go is something a lot of people are interested in.

Indeed, they've been around for years and are called laptops.

Seriously though, the Surface is a great idea with poor execution, I'd much prefer a Lenovo Yoga like design as it sacrifices less while still being almost just as portable.
    
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Indeed, they've been around for years and are called laptops.

Seriously though, the Surface is a great idea with poor execution, I'd much prefer a Lenovo Yoga like design as it sacrifices less while still being almost just as portable.

Full size laptops aren't exactly portable. There is a rather large size / weight difference with laptops, ultrabooks and tablets -- some people prefer smaller and thinner devices such as ultrabooks. If you don't like the SP that's great - but this is where PC computing is headed; increasingly smaller, thinner, tablet-esque hybrid devices. I see SP as more of a concept, and i'm sure MS and other firms will improve upon and perfect it.

Full size laptops are really only useful for gaming, I have a fullsize HP laptop and don't really carry it around anymore. It's pretty much unusable on charge, it HAS to be plugged in. It doesn't even get a third of the 5-7 hours an ultrabook gets.
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Apple Insider? SEems legit and worth posting on OCN. You can overclock Apple hardware and buy any off the shelve component and it work great.
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So they expected low sales, shipped so much. Sales slightly exceeded expectations. Low volumes sold out. Means things are better than realisticly expected perhaps. Depends on where you want to try to spin this.

But this was a funny read.

the funniest part is then we get headline's that just say they sold out, without qualifying the statement (explaining that they have no idea how many sold).
ai isn't the only one claiming they made a small shipment:

Microsoft's Surface Pro launch marred by supply shortages
http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-surface-pro-launch-marred-by-supply-shortages-7000011089/
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Originally Posted by xoleras View Post

Haha, this. The original poster of this thread has a history of being an irrational Apple fan that bashes MS and the surface nonstop.

Haha, indeed! One look at his posting history says it all....

Regardless, Microsoft is still relatively new to the tablet game, and after RT's disappointing sales, no one can really blame them for producing only 1 million devices for their first shipment. Having said that, both 64 and 128GB models are sold out EVERYHWERE - so it's fair to say that the total number of devices shipped (re:sold in the sales world) is going to be close to that number.

And for those commenting on how certain stores and chains received low shipments - if you've ever worked retail, you know it's individual stores and a lot of the times even regional/individual managers that make the call on what and how many to order.

Best Buy and Staples don't exactly instill a lot of confidence in the first place for stocking brand new, $1,000 pieces of tech en masse. A lot of the 'niche' Surface Pro buyers probably kept up with the Surface Pro online, via forums, etc., where the general feeling was Best Buy and Staples availability was going to be a crapshoot anyways, because each store controls how many they receive in a shipment. With Chinese New Year's hitting and factories in China probably ceasing and affecting the manufacturing of the Surface Pro to some degree, i'm sure Microsoft churned out as many as they could.

This reminds me of the GTX 680 launch - AMD fanboys cried that it wasn't actually selling well, even though not a single retailer/e-tailer could keep it stocked for more than 2 minutes. And yet we all know how well the 680 did....

Same thing here. I guess it's okay to be ignorant and pretend that people line up for $1,000 products and say that there's no demand, it's just lack of supply....not sure why an article from "appleinsider" bashing Microsoft is even allowed on OCN....unless the OP has other motives. What a garbage read. rolleyes.gif
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Apple Insider? SEems legit and worth posting on OCN. You can overclock Apple hardware and buy any off the shelve component and it work great.

I'm going to overclock my ipad.
post #57 of 113
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I'm going to overclock my ipad.

You know, it's funny you should mention that. Since this is OCN I can totally see someone trying to see how far they can overclock a Surface Pro. lol biggrin.gif
post #58 of 113
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Indeed, they've been around for years and are called laptops.

Seriously though, the Surface is a great idea with poor execution, I'd much prefer a Lenovo Yoga like design as it sacrifices less while still being almost just as portable.
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Originally Posted by xoleras View Post

Full size laptops aren't exactly portable. There is a rather large size / weight difference with laptops, ultrabooks and tablets -- some people prefer smaller and thinner devices such as ultrabooks. If you don't like the SP that's great - but this is where PC computing is headed; increasingly smaller, thinner, tablet-esque hybrid devices. I see SP as more of a concept, and i'm sure MS and other firms will improve upon and perfect it.

Full size laptops are really only useful for gaming, I have a fullsize HP laptop and don't really carry it around anymore. It's pretty much unusable on charge, it HAS to be plugged in. It doesn't even get a third of the 5-7 hours an ultrabook gets.

He isn't talking about full size laptops, he is talking about convertible ultrabooks like Yoga13/XPS12/Taichi/Thinkpad Helix, those are a lot closer to the surface pro in form factor/cost once you add the size of the Touch cover, they also have more USB ports, a real keyboard and screen with adjustable viewing angle.

Surface and other Hybrid Tablets(Acer W700) will be competing with them for the foreseeable future. The Hybrids will remain lighter, but the convertibles have their merits as well.
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so many people say bad things about the SP yet never used one, i also think its a great idea, pretty much a WIN8 laptop that turns into a tablet. im not an office worker myself but i can see them being alot more useful than an ipad or other ARM chipped tablets, you can use so many more programs and im sure it will only improve, the comment about having 10 years to do this is stupid alot of tech we have now wasnt around then. thumb.gif

Until the Surface Pro is embraced by government agencies and businesses around the nation it's just another piece of hardware that 99% of people can do without.

What many people fail to understand is, MS was never the "cool" company. Until MS can project that image in consumers mind, the SP will just be another piece of tech that comes and goes without much people knowing it even existed. Just like the Zune.
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Forbes is reporting something similar:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/02/10/links-10-feb-microsofts-surface-pro-sells-out-but-how-many-did-they-release/
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