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Sounds like an Apple fanboy/Microsoft hater trying to spin good news about their least favorite company into something bad.

The Surface Pro sold out because it's a good product. The comparisons to the Palm Pre and the Zune are clever, but irrelevant.

I have been looking to get one, but the Bestbuys in the NoVA area haven't received shipments yet. Staples apparently only seems to be carrying the 64gb version and the 128gb is online only, but one manager told me they haven't received any yet either.

So I do find the "Surface Pro sold out" stories a little disingenuous.
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Am I the only one ignoring Surface Pro and waiting on an i7 Asus Transformerbook?
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Am I the only one ignoring Surface Pro and waiting on an i7 Asus Transformerbook?
Probably. I'd rather get the Thinkpad Helix over the Transformer Book.
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post #84 of 113
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Probably. I'd rather get the Thinkpad Helix over the Transformer Book.

thinking along the same lines, the thing I don't like about Transformer book is the 500gb hdd in the keyboard dock imo is unnecessary for a ultrabook and replacing it with more batteries will probably make it a appealing device for me.
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They're working for Apple too! Guys, Surface sold extremely well and MS is now in the lead of the tablet market! Apple's just jealous! Right? Right? rolleyes.gif
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Yet, since some in the mainstream media are clueless on technical matters they will judge the SP on form factor alone. Whatever.

It's still a tablet, one of its pros is "It can do more than *insert ARM based tablet here*"
That doesn't put it in a different market, it's still going to compete with the iPad, etc...Quite honestly, the only thing I think it has over an normal tablet bar the ASUS Transformers (Who have a storage bus bottleneck...1MB/s SSDs, anyone?) is the attachable keyboard that comes with it.
Yes, I could play Crysis on it, yes, I could run Office on it...But I'd rather do that on my desktop, it's got a better graphics chip, better input for both of those (Mechanical keyboard vs Flat keyboard that misses a few keystrokes here and there? No competition) and there's nothing else that really can't be done on a Nexus 7 anyway.
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Am I the only one ignoring Surface Pro and waiting on an i7 Asus Transformerbook?

Definitely not, MS is new to the hardware game and it shows, I'd rather have a permanently attached keyboard that can then fold behind the screen and remain hidden, or even something more like the ASUS Transformer than the keyboard this thing has.
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Am I the only one ignoring Surface Pro and waiting on an i7 Asus Transformerbook?
Probably. I'd rather get the Thinkpad Helix over the Transformer Book.

Agreed.
    
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thinking along the same lines, the thing I don't like about Transformer book is the 500gb hdd in the keyboard dock imo is unnecessary for a ultrabook and replacing it with more batteries will probably make it a appealing device for me.
Funny, the extra hard drive is one of the big selling points for me.

I've never liked a lenovo product, with the keyboard typically being the sticking point by either being too small or just having poor feedback. I'm not even paying attention to the Helix as the only advantage I see is the keyboard remaining docked when using it as a tablet, but that advantage is trivial as if I've got my laptop, I've got my backpack.
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Difference is Apple is selling a ton of them.

Why would I care how many other people have a Surface Pro? It's a damn computer in tablet form. If I can get one who cares who else has one.
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Funny, the extra hard drive is one of the big selling points for me.

I've never liked a lenovo product, with the keyboard typically being the sticking point by either being too small or just having poor feedback. I'm not even paying attention to the Helix as the only advantage I see is the keyboard remaining docked when using it as a tablet, but that advantage is trivial as if I've got my laptop, I've got my backpack.

The way I am going to use it(the ultrabook convertible) makes the 500 gb hdd nothing but dead weight(as I'll put most my media file on my 2tb external and various SD cards), so I'd enjoyed having more battery instead of a hdd I have no use for. Hence why I added "imo" when commenting on the transformer book. Reason I like Helix is that it will be smaller/lighter(transformer books is quoted at 4.2lbs,2 lb more than surface pro and about 1 lb more than yoga) and maybe cheaper($1300 for the transformer book is quite a sticker shock when Yoga can be had for $1K flat).
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Why would I care how many other people have a Surface Pro? It's a damn computer in tablet form. If I can get one who cares who else has one.

*wooooooosh*

That's the sound of my point going over your head.
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Indeed, they've been around for years and are called laptops.

Seriously though, the Surface is a great idea with poor execution, I'd much prefer a Lenovo Yoga like design as it sacrifices less while still being almost just as portable.

Full size laptops aren't exactly portable. There is a rather large size / weight difference with laptops, ultrabooks and tablets -- some people prefer smaller and thinner devices such as ultrabooks. If you don't like the SP that's great - but this is where PC computing is headed; increasingly smaller, thinner, tablet-esque hybrid devices. I see SP as more of a concept, and i'm sure MS and other firms will improve upon and perfect it.

Full size laptops are really only useful for gaming, I have a fullsize HP laptop and don't really carry it around anymore. It's pretty much unusable on charge, it HAS to be plugged in. It doesn't even get a third of the 5-7 hours an ultrabook gets.

Except I'm not talking about full-size laptops, if I was I would be talking about budget ones (Core i3 + SSD and a laptop will fly for normal tasks) which are not "really only useful for gaming" considering the craptastic keyboard you can get for a Surface, and the prices of Ultrabooks...I got my Samsung laptop (15.6") for Uni and it only cost about as much as a normal Surface with Windows RT, to say that it's not useful for anything but gaming (Considering it's got what is essentially a HD4550, that's not its strong point) but I can get 3 hours of normal usage on it and it's been great for Uni so far, the Surface Pro would be utter crap thanks to its keyboard and set screen angle when in laptop mode.

If you only really want to browse the internet and play a few games? May as well get a cheap Nexus 7 or something, no point in having a keyboard for those, and the RT costs $250 more for nearly zero gain in those scenarios.
Want to spend less than AU$1000 and want to type a lot? Get a normal cheap laptop with an i3, put an SSD in it, the touch cover can never, ever stand up to a real keyboard and the amount of people who would benefit from going to an i5 in a laptop is very small, let alone an i7.
Want to spend more than AU$1000 and type a lot? Get an Ultrabook or proper convertible like the Yoga13/XPS12/Taichi/Thinkpad Helix, you don't have a craptastic touch keyboard then.

See what I mean when I say the Surface fits in a niche? The prices are from Australia, obviously, but as far as I can tell it applies worldwide.
    
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