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Okay... I could have sworn I saw a girl using a SP a week ago... Had windows logo and everything, and she was in the desktop x86 environment. Am I going mad?

Anyways, I wish that the base model started at 128GB instead of 64, seeing as the full windows 8 is being installed on there with updates for coming later. That really was more only complaint. Good to see its getting some decent sales numbers.thumb.gif

Edit: Can someone tell me if this thing is compatible with Bluetooth keyboards?
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Waiting on Gen 2
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I miss my Zune 30gb : (
Best Mp3 player ever.
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I miss my Zune 30gb : (
Best Mp3 player ever.

Not as good as my Creative Nomad JukeBox Zen Xtra, but close wink.gif Yes.. that is seriously the full name.
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I was messing with a Surface Pro at my local Best Buy today. It was pretty impressive. It was cool being able to run full fledged applications on such a small device.

It sucks that they're so expensive.
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It is all a matter of perspective, RT is the better value if you use it as a tablet(except the 1366X768 screen), but when you compare Pro to ultrabooks/macbook with similar hardware then it is no hotter, no heavier, cost about the same even after you add the type cover and you can get full office on it instead of Office for RT, and other 10 bazillion x86 apps you can't run on Windows RT.

Well, no. For about the same price, you can get the Samsung ATIV Pro which has the same specs as the SP but on average I get 6.5-7 hours from my Sammy tab.... with an inch larger screen and 2oz less weight....

I also got it mid-December.

SP's battery is not enough. It just isn't. The Sammy's battery could last a bit longer and it still shames the SP in that regard. SP has too many compromises IMO. I'm sure the build quality is superior to the Samsung offering but you sacrifice a lot for that.

Samsung also comes with real trackpad and a REAL keyboard as standard.
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Well, no. For about the same price, you can get the Samsung ATIV Pro which has the same specs as the SP but on average I get 6.5-7 hours from my Sammy tab.... with an inch larger screen and 2oz less weight....

I also got it mid-December.

SP's battery is not enough. It just isn't. The Sammy's battery could last a bit longer and it still shames the SP in that regard. SP has too many compromises IMO. I'm sure the build quality is superior to the Samsung offering but you sacrifice a lot for that.

Samsung also comes with real trackpad and a REAL keyboard as standard.
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Well, no. For about the same price, you can get the Samsung ATIV Pro which has the same specs as the SP but on average I get 6.5-7 hours from my Sammy tab.... with an inch larger screen and 2oz less weight....

I also got it mid-December.

SP's battery is not enough. It just isn't. The Sammy's battery could last a bit longer and it still shames the SP in that regard. SP has too many compromises IMO. I'm sure the build quality is superior to the Samsung offering but you sacrifice a lot for that.

Samsung also comes with real trackpad and a REAL keyboard as standard.

Atom is much, much slower than a 3rd generation core i5. You mention compromises with the SP, well, there's your compromise with the AITV...bad performance.
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Waiting for the Intel Haswell version. That one is going to be sick.
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Atom is much, much slower than a 3rd generation core i5. You mention compromises with the SP, well, there's your compromise with the AITV...bad performance.

I don't see Atom in this ATIV, in fact I see the same i5-3317U as surface Pro with a 49Wh Battery(instead of 42 for SP) and this one from Acer with the same core hardware and a 54 Wh Battery.

Granted the Samsung is a bit pricy on newegg(about $70 more than 128GB SP with typecover) and the Acer don't have a SD card reader, but SP is not the hybrid tablet packing an i5.
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I also got it mid-December.

SP's battery is not enough. It just isn't. The Sammy's battery could last a bit longer and it still shames the SP in that regard. SP has too many compromises IMO. I'm sure the build quality is superior to the Samsung offering but you sacrifice a lot for that.

Samsung also comes with real trackpad and a REAL keyboard as standard.

While I understand your comments, my original agrument was comparing Surface RT/non-convertiable ultrabook(MBA/Acer Aspire A7/Zenbook etc) to Surface Pro. I didn't compare Pro to convertible ultrabooks(Yoga13/XPS12) or other hybrid Tablets(Acer W700, ATIV Pro with i5 etc)
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Atom is much, much slower than a 3rd generation core i5. You mention compromises with the SP, well, there's your compromise with the AITV...bad performance.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sherlock View Post

I don't see Atom in this ATIV, in fact I see the same i5-3317U as surface Pro with a 49Wh Battery(instead of 42 for SP) and this one from Acer with the same hardware and a 54 Wh Battery.
While I understand your comments, my original agrument was comparing Surface RT/non-convertiable ultrabook(MBA/Acer Aspire A7/Zenbook etc) to Surface Pro. I didn't compare Pro to convertible ultrabooks(Yoga13/XPS12) or other hybrid Tablets(Acer W700, ATIV Pro with i5 etc)

But isn't SP really a hybrid tablet? In my mind it takes more sense to compare apples to apples.

Regardless of OEM choice, it's an amazing feeling to run SW2012 smoothly on a tablet.
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