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The last gen was a huge improvement. My 7950 single card was close to my 6970cf I had before.

Best bet is, buy a 7950 enjoy the free games and then sell and upgrade when the next cards get cheaper (release is always over priced).

I wanted to wait for the next cards, but with amd cards having such great performance and the 7950 being under $300 with the free games, along with new games I could barely play. It was a no brainer, so happy I took the jump and got new cards.
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Originally Posted by john1016 View Post

The last gen was a huge improvement. My 7950 single card was close to my 6970cf I had before.

Best bet is, buy a 7950 enjoy the free games and then sell and upgrade when the next cards get cheaper (release is always over priced).

I wanted to wait for the next cards, but with amd cards having such great performance and the 7950 being under $300 with the free games, along with new games I could barely play. It was a no brainer, so happy I took the jump and got new cards.

So your very happy going from 6970s in CF to a single 7950?

I'm currently running 6950s in CF and keep looking at a single 7970, however sometimes I feel that its a bit of a side grade and can't bring myself to spend £300 for it!? I can sell one of my 6950s to help, but I want to keep one for a benching rig I want to build, I like HWbot.

I take it you would consider it more than worthwhile change?
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So your very happy going from 6970s in CF to a single 7950?

I'm currently running 6950s in CF and keep looking at a single 7970, however sometimes I feel that its a bit of a side grade and can't bring myself to spend £300 for it!? I can sell one of my 6950s to help, but I want to keep one for a benching rig I want to build, I like HWbot.

I take it you would consider it more than worthwhile change?

Just get the 7970, AMD's new drivers are focused on the GCN ( as demonstrated by the 12.11 beta drivers) architecture so the 7970 continue to get faster while the 6950 are as good as they are now. Not to mention going from CFX to Single card will also save a lot of driver headaches & micro-stuttering issues.
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It was a side grade for me until I got the second one, although it did seem smoother with the single card.

Now I can play bf3 on ultra, no aa @6048x1200 res and stay between 50-60 fps. Tomb raider on high-ultra no problem. Crysis 3 is a card killer, play that on med-high.

If I was on a single screen I probably would have kept them, sold them to my brother for his 1080 screen and he is very happy coming from a 650ti 1gb.

Srry for going off topic.
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Unless you're having a problem running a specific game, wait. Buying a GPU before your system actually needs it is always a waste since by the time you actually need it, newer and better cards are usually out.

It's that Tomb Raider crap that is pissing people off. To spite ATI and Tomb Raider I think I'm going to purposely go for a Nvidia card in my next update and go for the Nvidia GTX 780, just because ATI makes me sick to my stomach for that crap they pulled with Tomb Raider and that system hog TESSFX. It's ridiculous I can max the game out at an avrg of around 40-50fps at 1920 with ultra graphics on but than my framerate literally drops from 40-50 fps on avrg to unplayable 20-14 fps on avrg with TessFX on. Why are hair effects taking that much out of my graphics card? It looks like something that was purposely optimized for ATI Cards.

Hopefully Nvidia is smart with the gtx 780 and 770 and put better DirectComput or API in it or whatever ATI did to get it work better with their cards. I feel like I was kicked in the balls by the Developers of Tomb Raider PC version and ATI is laughing thinking this will get me to go to the Dark Side. ATI is still missing PHYSX because they were too cheap to buy the rights from AGEIA or whatever that other company was called before Nvidia bought them off.
Edited by funnyman - 3/10/13 at 4:21pm
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It's that Tomb Raider crap that is pissing people off. To spite ATI and Tomb Raider I think I'm going to purposely go for a Nvidia card in my next update and go for the Nvidia GTX 780, just because ATI makes me sick to my stomach for that crap they pulled with Tomb Raider and that system hog TESSFX. It's ridiculous I can max the game out at an avrg of around 40-50fps at 1920 with ultra graphics on but than my framerate literally drops from 40-50 fps on avrg to unplayable 20-14 fps on avrg with TessFX on. Why are hair effects taking that much out of my graphics card? It looks like something that was purposely optimized for ATI Cards.

Nvidia did the same thing when Crysis 2 came out. They over-tessellated the game to deliberately kill the performance in Cayman so they get the upper hand.
While that might not benefit consumers, that's how business and competition works. Also I don't understand your rage if Nvidia made their current generation cards powerless for compute? it is Nvidia's fault in the first place and it is their own problem, ATI has nothing to do with it. But according to some sources TressFX weak performance is not due to DirectCompute but there is something else.

Now to the OP.
7950 is the best bang for the buck out of those choices. If you want to spend the least, get 7950. otherwise I will choose a 7970 GHz.
Some people say choosing 7970 GHz over the original 7970 is pointless, but in my point of view it is NOT why?

1- GHz edition is binned at higher clocks out of the box.
2- I've seen some dud 7970s in this forum can't even do much above 1 GHz (most of the time the voltage locked ones).
3- Some 7970s fail even to reach 1450 MHz on memory, while the 7970 GHz has 1.5 GHz out of the box.

Those qualities of the GHz allow me easily to choose it over the original 7970. I always prefer to get a higher binned chip as the chances to get a good overclocker are higher.
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1- GHz edition is binned at higher clocks out of the box.
GHz edition cards are NOT binned, this is a massive myth. The ONLY difference is the BIOS, you occasionally get some GHz edition cards that come unstable out of the box so it's not just limited to the regular card. Most regular 7970s are voltage unlocked unlike the GHz edition so you don't have to go through the hassle of flashing the BIOS and they are usually cheaper, so why not? If the GHz edition card is cheaper then yeah, you might as well go for it but otherwise it's not worth it. Sorry for the caps wink.gif
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GHz edition cards are NOT binned, this is a massive myth. The ONLY difference is the BIOS, you occasionally get some GHz edition cards that come unstable out of the box so it's not just limited to the regular card. Most regular 7970s are voltage unlocked unlike the GHz edition so you don't have to go through the hassle of flashing the BIOS and they are usually cheaper, so why not? If the GHz edition card is cheaper then yeah, you might as well go for it but otherwise it's not worth it. Sorry for the caps wink.gif

If the GHz edition card is unstable out of the box you have the choice to RMA it, but once you get a dud 7970 @ 925 MHz that can't overclock well you might stay with it forever wink.gif .
If the OP has no problem at affording the binned 7970 GHz (yes it is binned higher since it is guaranteed to do 1050/6000 MHz) out of the box, then where is the problem?
No offence I know you own a GTX 680 but IMHO buying a higher clocked 7970 out of the box for more money is better than buying a GTX 680 which costs about the same but the latter is slower, overclock worse on average, does not compete at higher resolution and has less VRAM.
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Yep have a 560ti my self, and just can't pull a trigger at this stage in the release cycle, he'll we need the next gen of cards to come out, and soon, these ones are getting old,

The reason I'm waiting is I would like another green card, but want one with > 2gb of ram ( with out crazy price inflation )

It's a hard game we play, 7950 is what I would be buying if I bout today,
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I am plan on getting the 7970 by the end of this month. I'm thinking about getting the MSI 7970 Power Edition or the HIS IceQ x2 Ghz Not willing to spend the money, The 7950 is a good choice.
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Creative Labs - Z PCIe Audio-Technica - ATH-A700X Antlion Mo​​dMic 4.0 
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