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post #21 of 89
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Gonna remove my AG coating aswell, lets see how this goes biggrin.gif

CallsignVega are you going to leave the screen like that or did you add another glossy layer after?

I'll admit that my search was short but I haven't found a glossy overlay to use once the matte finish is removed. Then there is the whole process of properly affixing the new overlay.
post #22 of 89
I would think using some window insulator would be alright to use (clear film used on windows) it's just the question if it will diminish the quality or not.
post #23 of 89
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Gonna remove my AG coating aswell, lets see how this goes biggrin.gif

CallsignVega are you going to leave the screen like that or did you add another glossy layer after?

This was just a test monitor. Thea real test/od will be with the Asus QE.

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Wow this is a great post vega! Now I want to try this so bad. The polarizer layer looks fairly strong from the video, is a glossy film needed or could the monitor be used fine with just the polarizer film?

Yes, it is quite a thick, strong layer. Through some research I've found out that AR films have ultraviolet radiation protection built in. This is of course to protect your eyes just like sunglasses outside. Now I am not sure once you remove the film if having an exposed polarizer would remove/reduce this protection. If the Asus QE panel has a durable/robust polarizer, I still think I'd put the gloss film on for the protection it provides as explicitly stated by the OEM. Any risk to the eyes is certainly nothing I'd ever want to even question in the slightest. Maybe PCM can chime in with some input. The thing is that with ultraviolet radiation, you won't be able to tell or "feel" that anything is wrong and damage can take years. I would err on the side of caution, but that is just me.
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I would think using some window insulator would be alright to use (clear film used on windows) it's just the question if it will diminish the quality or not.

I would not put any layer on that is not designed for displays, their special optical properties and protection as stated above. You could always try though. wink.gif
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post #24 of 89
Was just an idea, along with 3m's offerings apparently they make quite a bit more then just there privacy filter film's it's just the question if and where the public can buy them (these seem the most ideal).

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/NA_Optical/Systems/Technology/DisplayFilms/
post #25 of 89
Nice investigative work Vega.

I'm pretty confident that the spidering we've seen with some of these displays is caused by the towels being over saturated with liquid and diffusing between layers of the display. Essentially the layers suck it up like a towel or the straw trick if you've seen that. There is a scientific name for it, but I can't think of it right now (osmosis?).

If the layer is like plexiglass then it'd be very hard to damage with a heat difference. It would have to get super hot... like hot enough to warp the plastic in order to cause it. Although it's definitely something worth looking into.

Some good questions:

Is the spidering damage caused by heat? Have you left the monitor on for like 12 hours and then tried wiping it down with a cold rag?

Another question, how resistant is the polarizer to scratching? I watched the video, but have you tried using a paper towel for instance?

Obviously I don't want to absorb UV constantly through something I look at 10 hours a day, so if there are radiation risks it'd definitely be worth looking into.
post #26 of 89
At the moment your doing this with water and towels but if its the AG is an adhesive thing stickerd to the polarizer can't it be removed faster with a heatgun?
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post #27 of 89
Don't want to risk damaging anything blasting that kind of heat onto your naked monitor I would think.
Only the top layer is to be removed and heat guns aren't very precise
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post #28 of 89
To those bothered about Ultra Violet Radiation, I have uncovered some information.

Quote from http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-an-anti-glare-computer-screen.htm
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Some cathode ray tube (CRT) monitors also come with an anti-glare screen. If not, aftermarket anti-glare screens can be purchased that block not only glare, but also harmful ultra-violet (UV) radiation. Radiation is not a problem with LCD screens.

And other people around the web seem to concur. CRT monitors emit radiation, a small part of which is X-Ray, but at levels far below the safety threshold so are not in any way dangerous. LED monitors convert almost all energy to light, very little is given off as heat (infrared) radiation, which is harmless in this context anyway.

Regarding UV radiation, CRTs emit tiny amounts (will not damage eyes even after a lifetime of viewing), but LCD monitors emit none at all. See hither: http://www.ehow.com/way_5567151_do-screens-emit-uv-light.html


So there is nothing to worry about, you won't get radiation damage by removing the anti-glare layer!
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To those bothered about Ultra violet radiation. Don't go outside. tongue.gif
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Some people do have xeroderma pigmentosum (XP), a condition wherein the body cannot repair UV damage to the skin. If that's you, stay the hell away from CRT's!
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