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I really couldn't figure out where to put this thread so I decided this would probably be the best place.

I am looking to build myself a gaming rig and I want to put it under water a few months after the build is complete. However I am having some trouble with a couple things. The first problem is how much water cooling do I actually need? I will be cooling the CPU and (if I can find a way or the right cards) a GPU or two. So how many rads should I look into and how much raddage should i need? For example, at least two 240/280's, or a 240/280 and a 360/420?

If I can't figure this out first, then here comes the next question, the case. I am stuck between two, the Corsair 900D and Fractal XL R2. Depending on how much raddage I need will ultimately decide which case i go with. If I can do with a couple mid size rads I will probably go with the XL R2, or if more raddage would serve me better i will gladly put out the money for a 900D.

The final question comes in the form of a few actually. Should I cool my GPU(s), how should i go about cooling them (ie modded CPU coolers or part of the loop) and which GPU should I look at that has a block that will actually fit, as ref cards seem to be difficult to find?

I was thinking of going with a 7970 or two, however I don't know exactly which, if there are still any, are reference designs.

That is, I think, everything i need and want to know. if you have any questions, feel free to ask. So, any help on this? I hope I got it all down.
post #2 of 5
I would suggest to wait out for the Swiftech H220 (2x120mm=240 rad) AIO / CLC kit that's coming out in a week or so. It comes pre-filled and has a pump block combo. The best part about is that it is expandable for any future upgrades. So you can start off by liquid cooling your CPU and then once you've settled on a waterblock (or two) you can then decide to add a radiator (or not) to the loop.

It is actually powerful enough (the pump) to run with 1 CPU and 2 GPUs. In your case, you just need to buy an extra radiator (maybe another MCR-X20 from Swiftech without the pump) for the build if you really want chilly temps for all components.

Would end up costing you $140 for the H220 plus $85 for the MCR-X20 which comes out to about $225. You can also substitute the rad for the MCRX20-QP for only $60 and have a total right on $200 dollars.

This is what I actually plan on doing since it gives me the easy installation of an AIO / CLC to start off (CPU then GPU later) then gives me the added expandability to add my GPU later down the road.

Here's the details to the Swiftech H220 --->> CLICK HERE

Here is a great site to look at it's performance to give you a better idea of how it runs and works --->>> MartinsLiquidLab

According to martin the H220 more or less needs 300ml to fill it and it will now come with a new non-toxic blue formula.

With the setup I mention above it should fit a Fractal XL R2:

Water cooling compatibility (from Fractal Site):
Front – 240mm radiator when HDD cages are removed or repositioned
Top – 240 and 280mm when using slim radiators
Bottom – 120mm radiators
Rear – 120 and 140mm radiators

You could put one rad on the top and on the bottom to fit both 240mm rads.

As for the cards you're going to get, EK has some very good water blocks for 7950s/7970s and GTX 670s/680s that I think would be perfect. Check out their website as they give pretty good options for Sapphire, etc. (whichever manufacturer) to help you decide which GPU to get --- >>> EK Cooling Configurator

EDIT: Forgot to add that the Helix fans on the H220 are coming very highly recommended since they perform almost equal to a GT-AP15 but for a lot less. I'm personally buying a lot of the helix fans to replace my Gelid Wings since they match my build (black and white) and perform better and a lot more quiet.

Hope this helps in any way! thumb.gif
Edited by mark_thaddeus - 2/11/13 at 1:30am
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That looks like a pretty good deal, so you don't think I'd need more raddage than that to warrant the 900D. Jot trying to change the choice completely just asking if it'd make a difference. I was considering a 3930K to work with VMs, so I'm still trying to decide between that and probably a 3570K. What do you think?
post #4 of 5
Obviously if thinking of a budget then the Fractal with what you have planned (and for the performance so far shown by the H220) I don't think you need more than the two 240 rads for 1 CPU and 2 GPUs.

If I had the money though I would actually choose a TJ07/TJ11 over the 900D just because of it's aluminum unibody construction versus metal body and aluminum front of the corsair. I think it's a better value than the 900d and offers the same space. I would also get the 3930k just for epeen.biggrin.gif

TJ07 Link

900D Link

I would probably get a 360 rad at the bottom if getting a TJ07 or 900D to go with the H220, that should be more than enough to cool 1 3930k plus two GPUs.
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Crucial MX100 512 GB Corsair H55 dual fan (CPU) NZXT G10 Corsair H55 (GPU) 
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Windows 7 Pro SP1 Asus PB278Q DK-9087 MX Red White Leds Seasonic 660X 
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post #5 of 5
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I looked into the TJ11 but didn't really care for it, however the TJ07 is quite nice. I think my choice will have to be between the XL R2, 900D and TJ07. I really like the sound dampening of the XL R2, I love the drive cage setup on the 900D and the TJ07 , I believe, the lightest. So they all have their pros. Decisions decisions. Any other votes for which case to use? Otherwise I may need to post in the case section to figure out which would be best for my needs.
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