Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Specialized Cooling › Phase Change › Need advice on managing condensation
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Need advice on managing condensation

post #1 of 5
Thread Starter 
I am running a loop cooling the CPU and GPU with a chiller, with subambient temps.
I've covered the entire motherboard with Dragon Skin, and the exposed parts of the GPU with eraser. The places where I can see condensation forming are the exposed copper of the GPU block and the metal fittings in the loops.
Do I need to cover these metal parts (exposed copper of the GPU block and the metal fittings) with some kind of insulation? Or is the condensation at these points of no concern?
post #2 of 5
condensation anywhere is a big concern. Theres going to be alot on your tubing and blocks I would use neoprene tape for the blocks and any insulation that will fit the tubes really. Or you could do it the lazy way and just shove a papertowel where the water is and change it every so often.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1100T ga-990fx-ud3 gtx 4602win corsair dominator 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
OLD none windows 7 x64 Ultimate 3d projector with 98in screen MOFO 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
DUMB ocz 1000w pretty ugly logitech wireless 
Mouse PadOtherOther
carpet gtx285 classified for physix Nvidia 3d vison  
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1100T ga-990fx-ud3 gtx 4602win corsair dominator 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
OLD none windows 7 x64 Ultimate 3d projector with 98in screen MOFO 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
DUMB ocz 1000w pretty ugly logitech wireless 
Mouse PadOtherOther
carpet gtx285 classified for physix Nvidia 3d vison  
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 5
Thread Starter 
I guess my other question is, is the condensation I can see just the tip of the iceberg? Is there condensation forming underneath, behind, inside components that I don't see that might be a problem?

What I ended up doing last night was covering all the exposed metal parts of the GPU block and the fittings with eraser, then I wrapped the fittings with shop paper towels on top. (Tubing had already been covered with Armacell.)

The only exposed metal inside the case that is anywhere near a vulnerable component is the metal on the rim of the CPU block. (Koolance CPU-380I.) I ran it like that for a few hours last night subambient without any problems as yet.
post #4 of 5
My take on your question has a simple answer, albeit maybe not as easy as it sounds preventing in practice. You want to protect any exposed material (metal, plastic, etc) that is below ambient temps from your environment's air. Failure to do so is inviting condensation to build up there. Now if you know these areas temps will remain below freezing when you are at 100% load then you should be fine just make sure that your components are allowed to dry out completely between sessions. If you can't keep those areas below freezing while 100% load then you run the risk of the frozen condensation melting and then dripping which could short out on you.

Sounds like you have it mostly protected now but I would keep a very close eye on the CPU block to make sure condensation is not sneaking up on you there.....put a single layer of a shop towel around it and see if it starts to turn a darker color on you. thumb.gif
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 5960X ASUS RAMPAGE V EXTREME/U3.1 MSI R9 290X LIGHTNING MSI R9 290X LIGHTNING 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
MSI R9 290X LIGHTNING Kingston HyperX Predator 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4 2666 Intel 400GB 750 Series NVMe PCIe (OS drive) Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB (2 in RAID 0) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200RPM SATA3 64MB LG Super Multi Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD-ROM Drive LG GH24NS90B 24X SATA Internal Super Multi DVD ... CPU Cooler [Summer-Time] = Watercool HEATKILLER... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
CPU Cooler [Winter-Time] = Custom 300W ss phase... Hardware Labs Black Ice GTX 480 Radiator (4 x 1... Feser X-Changer Triple (3 x 120mm) Swiftech MCP655 (x2) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Koolance RP-452X2 Dual 5.25" Reservoir EK MSI R9 290X Lightning - Full Cover VGA Water... EK MSI R9 290X Lightning - Full Cover VGA Water... EK MSI R9 290X Lightning - Full Cover VGA Water... 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro x64 (3) ASUS VG248QE 24-Inch Screen LED-lit Monitor Ducky Mini PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 1200 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Xigmatek Elysium [Black w/ Window] Razer Naga Hex MOBA Perixx DX-2000XXL Boston Acoustics MicroMediaSpeaker System 
AudioOther
Sennheiser PC 363D EVGA Supernova 1300G2 - 1300W PSU (second PSU) 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3930k RAMPAGE IV EXTREME ASUS GTX 590 Samsung 30nm 4 x 4GB sticks 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
SAMSUNG 850 EVO 250GB 1TB WD Green 300GB WD Velociraptor (4 in RAID 0) LG GH24NS90B 24X SATA Internal Super Multi DVD ... 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG GH24NS90B 24X SATA Internal Super Multi DVD ... Corsair H110i GT Windows 10 Pro x64 LG 24" Flatron 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Shine II - w/ Brown Cherry MX w/ English ... Corsair TX650 Nanoxia Deep Silence 2 RAZER DeathAdder 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
X Trac Ripper HT| OMEGA eCLARO  TRITTON AX Pro Dolby Digital 5.1 True Surround ... 
  hide details  
Reply
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 5960X ASUS RAMPAGE V EXTREME/U3.1 MSI R9 290X LIGHTNING MSI R9 290X LIGHTNING 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
MSI R9 290X LIGHTNING Kingston HyperX Predator 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4 2666 Intel 400GB 750 Series NVMe PCIe (OS drive) Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB (2 in RAID 0) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200RPM SATA3 64MB LG Super Multi Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD-ROM Drive LG GH24NS90B 24X SATA Internal Super Multi DVD ... CPU Cooler [Summer-Time] = Watercool HEATKILLER... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
CPU Cooler [Winter-Time] = Custom 300W ss phase... Hardware Labs Black Ice GTX 480 Radiator (4 x 1... Feser X-Changer Triple (3 x 120mm) Swiftech MCP655 (x2) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Koolance RP-452X2 Dual 5.25" Reservoir EK MSI R9 290X Lightning - Full Cover VGA Water... EK MSI R9 290X Lightning - Full Cover VGA Water... EK MSI R9 290X Lightning - Full Cover VGA Water... 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro x64 (3) ASUS VG248QE 24-Inch Screen LED-lit Monitor Ducky Mini PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 1200 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Xigmatek Elysium [Black w/ Window] Razer Naga Hex MOBA Perixx DX-2000XXL Boston Acoustics MicroMediaSpeaker System 
AudioOther
Sennheiser PC 363D EVGA Supernova 1300G2 - 1300W PSU (second PSU) 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3930k RAMPAGE IV EXTREME ASUS GTX 590 Samsung 30nm 4 x 4GB sticks 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
SAMSUNG 850 EVO 250GB 1TB WD Green 300GB WD Velociraptor (4 in RAID 0) LG GH24NS90B 24X SATA Internal Super Multi DVD ... 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG GH24NS90B 24X SATA Internal Super Multi DVD ... Corsair H110i GT Windows 10 Pro x64 LG 24" Flatron 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Shine II - w/ Brown Cherry MX w/ English ... Corsair TX650 Nanoxia Deep Silence 2 RAZER DeathAdder 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
X Trac Ripper HT| OMEGA eCLARO  TRITTON AX Pro Dolby Digital 5.1 True Surround ... 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 5
Water chiller wont cause a ton of condensation so theres not a ton to worry about. That being said eraser isn't there to prevent condensation its there to make sure it dosent build up where it can hit components. If your only using eraser and no real insulation then water will still form on the outside of it. Might not be a problem with just a chiller but you are losing a few degrees out of the parts only covered with eraser, need something better to keep the cold in biggrin.gif
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1100T ga-990fx-ud3 gtx 4602win corsair dominator 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
OLD none windows 7 x64 Ultimate 3d projector with 98in screen MOFO 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
DUMB ocz 1000w pretty ugly logitech wireless 
Mouse PadOtherOther
carpet gtx285 classified for physix Nvidia 3d vison  
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
1100T ga-990fx-ud3 gtx 4602win corsair dominator 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
OLD none windows 7 x64 Ultimate 3d projector with 98in screen MOFO 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
DUMB ocz 1000w pretty ugly logitech wireless 
Mouse PadOtherOther
carpet gtx285 classified for physix Nvidia 3d vison  
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Phase Change
Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Specialized Cooling › Phase Change › Need advice on managing condensation