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Not to belittle the folding at home project, but do you think it possible to intelligently discuss other research projects like this one without having to compare them to F@H? This is not a distributed computer project, this is a heuristic algorithm being used to compile and sort data for research.

I'm a huge proponent of protein folding & distributed computing, but I agree with you: this IBM project has nothing to do with folding. Watson will be working on analyzing medical records & scientific journals, whereas protein folding...folds proteins. Perhaps a programmer could envision & explain the tasks, because I imagine it's quite difficult to program Watson to look for the kind of correlations & recommendations we're asking it to do.

Another difference: Watson's findings could result in immediately usable results / clinical suggestions. Protein folding doesn't work like that (not that that's a drawback).
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They took their sweet time!

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Wasn't Watson designed for research purposes anyway? It's designed to interpret written data and draw conclusions as well as solve problems in a way that most computers cannot hope to understand (Watson can understand natural human language)

This is what Watson should have been doing from the beginning. Glad to see the computer is being put to good use. thumb.gif

It takes time for a system such as this to mature to a point where you can depend on it as a reliable source of information. Plus there is an immense amount of data that needs to be gathered before you can just feed it in.
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I think it would be awesome if there was a day or week each year all the owners of these major supercomputers would have a folding competition. See whom could generate the most PP from the least energy or something.

In the mean time it would help with the research.

Ah well, at least IBM has jumped on board with helping in the cancer research department. Makes me want to support them more (NOT Lenovo though)...
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Lenovo is a separate entity from IBM.
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He clearly states consumer products. There are consumer products that contain IBM products or collaborations, but nothing directly from IBM.
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Originally Posted by mothergoose729 View Post

Not to belittle the folding at home project, but do you think it possible to intelligently discuss other research projects like this one without having to compare them to F@H? This is not a distributed computer project, this is a heuristic algorithm being used to compile and sort data for research. It is very cool and very exciting what a computer like watson can do. There is probably millions, if not billions of pages of data in research that no human being could possibly read and sort. A computer like this could lead to huge breakthroughs. Virtually any research field could benefit from a computer like watson, so there is potential for this kind of computing application to have a huge impact on the way research done everywhere.

Sorry to say it, but the OCN community tends to barely read the title before posting. Supercomputer? Cancer? It can only mean F@H.
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Supercomputers like this are the types of computers that SHOULD be doing research computing. I'm sure this supercomputer is far more efficient than a typical consumer computer.
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Cancer treatment is a $100 billion a year industry. You can bet the patent holders of chemo drugs are going to try to debunk anything that a computer manufacturer comes up with.

They have made trillions over the past few decades. Why would they want to find a cure?

The FDA hates the words "cure" and "remedy", insisting alternative doctors to use words such as "treatment" or "remission". There are many "cures" out there but have all been suppressed and their founders called "quacks" and their hard work "quackery". Really sad.
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Supercomputers like this are the types of computers that SHOULD be doing research computing. I'm sure this supercomputer is far more efficient than a typical consumer computer.

understatement of the century.
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Supercomputers like this are the types of computers that SHOULD be doing research computing. I'm sure this supercomputer is far more efficient than a typical consumer computer.

understatement of the century.

They are also extremely expensive and rare.
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They have made trillions over the past few decades. Why would they want to find a cure?
The FDA hates the words "cure" and "remedy", insisting alternative doctors to use words such as "treatment" or "remission". There are many "cures" out there but have all been suppressed and their founders called "quacks" and their hard work "quackery". Really sad.

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Good luck finding any. The whole point of suppression of information is to make it difficult to impossible to prove that someone, sometime, showed some serious advances in a non-patentable cure for any given ailment. Disinformation, intimidation, heck arson and murder are not off the table when you are talking about, literally, billions. Look at former president Woodrow Wilson. In return for funding his presidential campaign, America got the Federal Reserve Bank and endless, unnecessary debt. Even HE regretted it. You think people running a multinational, multi billion dollar pharmaceutical firm would like to lose their income?
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I don't think this website is the place for financial conspiracy now is it? Can we get back to how helpful this could possibly to the cure.
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Wow, this is great news. I think IBM is pretty amazing. ^_^
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