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I actually want Microsoft to stay on windows 8 for a good couple of years so they can really get the ecosystem tuned with all their devices included windows phone 8.
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But this Verge article loses a little credibility with the whole "Post-PC era" spiel.
Lol. Yeah everyone is clamoring for a desktop these days.
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Lol. Yeah everyone is clamoring for a desktop these days.

Your comments are blasphemous on this forum. tongue.gif

But hey...if all you Win8 haters want to get MS's attention use Linux. That will make them change their tune.

PS: Really wish I could use Linux with the Surface but I'm sure MS has that thing made to be a pain to do so. Dreams of E17 and KDE on a touch screen again crushed. frown.gif
     
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Your comments are blasphemous on this forum. tongue.gif

But hey...if all you Win8 haters want to get MS's attention use Linux. That will make them change their tune.

PS: Really wish I could use Linux with the Surface but I'm sure MS has that thing made to be a pain to do so. Dreams of E17 and KDE on a touch screen again crushed. frown.gif

Hmm there a couple guides to do this already and they all seem to be reporting that 99% is functional.

Anyways Im off to return my surface and grab another one, this one had a really annoying ghosting spot and a nick in the screen. I hope I dont have to wait to long for a replacement., maybe by friday. This thing is awesome, replaced my laptop for school.
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I don't get why people think The Verge is "biased". Sure some of their employees have a preference, but the company as a whole has a healthy mix, and their editors/writers are adept at laying this out, and while this may show through with harping on a niggle here, and a 0.someodd rating difference there; they on a whole (imo) are pretty accurate and fair.

OT: As a programmer, the Surface Pro strikes me as an excellent opportunity for Ubuntu. Get a solid build running on it, slap team viewer on it, and run it is a tablet interface for your computer. Microsoft does all the work on the hardware side. Canonical wins.

Unfortunately $800+ is not a good price. It's just not. "For the specs it's a good price blah blah blah". Sorry. No it's not. It's a tablet. People will use it as a tablet. It's form factor restricts its function. I don't care if they managed to put a 5.0L supercharged V8 in there. You aren't going to take it to the drag strip because it's a tablet. It'll be used like a tablet, and as such must be compared to other tablets, which are often half, or less, the price. And, as tablets, function comparably, if not better at the task of being a tablet (read: touch screen enabled media consumption device) than any current flavor of Surface out there.

Microsoft: An exercise in profiting from failure and irrelevance.

Now that Sinofsky's out, maybe they can pull it together.

Tablets are a fad anyway. Sure, massively profitable, Widely adopted. Outselling thsi that and the other thing. Great. The form factor will be around for a long time, that's definitely successful. But the tablet computer? No. They will be quickly replaced by thin clients running Virtual Desktop/Application Interfaces.
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I don't get why people think The Verge is "biased". Sure some of their employees have a preference, but the company as a whole has a healthy mix, and their editors/writers are adept at laying this out, and while this may show through with harping on a niggle here, and a 0.someodd rating difference there; they on a whole (imo) are pretty accurate and fair.

OT: As a programmer, the Surface Pro strikes me as an excellent opportunity for Ubuntu. Get a solid build running on it, slap team viewer on it, and run it is a tablet interface for your computer. Microsoft does all the work on the hardware side. Canonical wins.

Unfortunately $800+ is not a good price. It's just not. "For the specs it's a good price blah blah blah". Sorry. No it's not. It's a tablet. People will use it as a tablet. It's form factor restricts its function. I don't care if they managed to put a 5.0L supercharged V8 in there. You aren't going to take it to the drag strip because it's a tablet. It'll be used like a tablet, and as such must be compared to other tablets, which are often half, or less, the price. And, as tablets, function comparably, if not better at the task of being a tablet (read: touch screen enabled media consumption device) than any current flavor of Surface out there.

Microsoft: An exercise in profiting from failure and irrelevance.

Now that Sinofsky's out, maybe they can pull it together.

Tablets are a fad anyway. Sure, massively profitable, Widely adopted. Outselling thsi that and the other thing. Great. The form factor will be around for a long time, that's definitely successful. But the tablet computer? No. They will be quickly replaced by thin clients running Virtual Desktop/Application Interfaces.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2013/02/12/surface-pro-can-run-diablo-iii-portal-2-other-aaa-games-why-isnt-microsoft-evangelizing-this/

more than just a tablet. I don't use my RT as a tablet, I use it for work. My laptop has essentially been replaced.
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I don't get why people think The Verge is "biased". Sure some of their employees have a preference, but the company as a whole has a healthy mix, and their editors/writers are adept at laying this out, and while this may show through with harping on a niggle here, and a 0.someodd rating difference there; they on a whole (imo) are pretty accurate and fair.

OT: As a programmer, the Surface Pro strikes me as an excellent opportunity for Ubuntu. Get a solid build running on it, slap team viewer on it, and run it is a tablet interface for your computer. Microsoft does all the work on the hardware side. Canonical wins.

Unfortunately $800+ is not a good price. It's just not. "For the specs it's a good price blah blah blah". Sorry. No it's not. It's a tablet. People will use it as a tablet. It's form factor restricts its function. I don't care if they managed to put a 5.0L supercharged V8 in there. You aren't going to take it to the drag strip because it's a tablet. It'll be used like a tablet, and as such must be compared to other tablets, which are often half, or less, the price. And, as tablets, function comparably, if not better at the task of being a tablet (read: touch screen enabled media consumption device) than any current flavor of Surface out there.

Microsoft: An exercise in profiting from failure and irrelevance.

Now that Sinofsky's out, maybe they can pull it together.

Tablets are a fad anyway. Sure, massively profitable, Widely adopted. Outselling thsi that and the other thing. Great. The form factor will be around for a long time, that's definitely successful. But the tablet computer? No. They will be quickly replaced by thin clients running Virtual Desktop/Application Interfaces.

I absolutely love the way in which you non-chalantly state your OPINIONS as fact....

"People will use it as a tablet. It's form factor restricts its function."

Maybe you should change that to, "I would use it as a tablet" and, "its form factor restricts MY function."

Needless to say, you don't even own one, and yet you're making such ignorant comments...

As a Surface Pro owner, I have absolutely no problems whatsoever using ONE of its form factors as a laptop to get productive work done, and then using it as a tablet to replace everything I did with the combination of a Lenovo X220T laptop + iPad that i owned before getting a Pro.

All I see here is a massive failure on your part to comprehend that Microsoft is trailblazing a new "convergence device" category that has yet to really be defined, let alone be deemed as an "exercise in failure."

The Surface Pro is flying off the shelves, so obviously, the idea of shoving an Ultrabook in a tablet form factor works for some people, giving it some legs with which to improve on and for Microsoft to capitalize on such a device.

A lot of the complaints with the Surface Pro will be solved with the next iteration, as the tech needed to improve such a "convergence device" just isn't out yet.

Maybe, you know, actually read the article....
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Lol. Yeah everyone is clamoring for a desktop these days.

His point, was that labelling a PC in a laptop/tablet format doesn't stop it from being a PC. Which makes the phrase "post-pc era" nothing more but marketing speak for "come play with our stuff, their stuff is seeew last year" kind of thing.

PC stands for personal computer.

If anything, laptops, tablets and phones are much more "personal" computation devices than most domestic/commercial desktops.

As Bizarreride said, PCs are not going away, they are evolving in the wake of demand, usage and technology.
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I absolutely love the way in which you non-chalantly state your OPINIONS as fact....

"People will use it as a tablet. It's form factor restricts its function."

Maybe you should change that to, "I would use it as a tablet" and, "its form factor restricts MY function."

Needless to say, you don't even own one, and yet you're making such ignorant comments...

As a Surface Pro owner, I have absolutely no problems whatsoever using ONE of its form factors as a laptop to get productive work done, and then using it as a tablet to replace everything I did with the combination of a Lenovo X220T laptop + iPad that i owned before getting a Pro.

All I see here is a massive failure on your part to comprehend that Microsoft is trailblazing a new "convergence device" category that has yet to really be defined, let alone be deemed as an "exercise in failure."

The Surface Pro is flying off the shelves, so obviously, the idea of shoving an Ultrabook in a tablet form factor works for some people, giving it some legs with which to improve on and for Microsoft to capitalize on such a device.

A lot of the complaints with the Surface Pro will be solved with the next iteration, as the tech needed to improve such a "convergence device" just isn't out yet.

Maybe, you know, actually read the article....
finally a fellow Surface owner. Granted I just have the RT...

Just your opinion, doesn't a laptop seem inconvenient now?
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Good article. 7.8/10
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