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600W Diablotek EL Series: how good or bad is it?

post #1 of 25
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I can explain later why I'm asking, but how good or bad is this PSU?  Please be as specific and as technical as possible regarding everything you may know about it.  What I'm really looking for is the same kind of information I would be able to get from a professional review.

 

Here's the only thing that comes up for me when I search for it:  http://www.microcenter.com/product/380709/EL_Series_600_Watt_ATX_Power_Supply

 

I say that this PSU should be avoided at all costs, except now I need to be able to explain why.

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post #2 of 25
I know what Microcenters website says, but I believe its actually a DA series 600W (as even diabloteks website doesn't list a EL series)

check out this post: http://www.overclock.net/t/1308004/can-my-diablotek-da-series-psda500-500w-atx-power-supply-handle-the-upcoming-upgrades

Phaedrus2129 believes the 500W version is a 250 - 300w at most, I wouldn't be surprised if the 600W was the same one with a different sticker redface.gif

Though I generally don't put a whole lot of stock into new egg customer reviews, most of them say it died at relatively low voltage http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817822013
Edited by appleg33k85 - 2/12/13 at 4:38pm
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post #3 of 25
Without opening one up and/or putting it on a load tester, it's impossible to provide the type of info you're looking for.

1st. It has Passive PFC, which from the get go makes it bottom of the barrel material.
2nd. From the few pictures available on the web, I can't see any Y caps through the exhaust grill, so (probably) crap to nonexistent EMI filter.
3rd. Fake rating, it's in the spirit of Diablotek's tradition and code of good practice..... and it costs nothing..... doh.
4th. Again, it costs Nothing, a 600W PSU at <20$ should raise a big red flag to anyone boasting a pair of live neurons.
post #4 of 25
googling 'diablotek review jonnyguru"
or "diablotek review hardwaresecrets"

will undoubtedly reveal how crappy of a build that psu you find the review for is and from arguing how BAD that one is you can argue that it applies to almost all their PSUs
post #5 of 25
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Well, I guess it wouldn't hurt to be completely open and honest at the risk of possibly embarrassing myself a little bit.  Here's the thread in question:

 

http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/276345-new-win7-random-bsod-events-sf-zip-attached.html

 

Here's where I began suspecting the PSU:

 

http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/276345-new-win7-random-bsod-events-sf-zip-attached.html#post2290274

 

It was right after he said that the BSODs are becoming more frequent.  When I saw that, I decided to see what he has for a PSU.  When I saw "not sure but at least a 450 if not 500" listed in his sig rig, I knew right away that he must have a junker.  Sure enough...

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post #6 of 25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlashFir View Post

googling 'diablotek review jonnyguru"
or "diablotek review hardwaresecrets"

will undoubtedly reveal how crappy of a build that psu you find the review for is and from arguing how BAD that one is you can argue that it applies to almost all their PSUs

 

I didn't even think about that because I made the assumption that they would never even bother to review a PSU like this.  The only review I see is one of a 1050W unit, and someone on Tom's Hardware said that it damaged some of their test equipment!  lol

 

The thing is, I don't know if I should use that as an example because then the argument would be, "But that's not the same PSU".

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post #7 of 25
That $20 Diablotek is something you buy when you want an excuse to upgrade your entire system.

Because you will inevitably have to when it goes into the advertised "Over Voltage & Overload Protections." AKA, "4th of July Mode."
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Memetest errors should be treated the following way... test the system with each stick individually and see if it does the same, if so do a clean Win install and run memtest before you start installing drivers.. if it still does it then you can suspect the PSU or mobo (or very very unlikely, all the sticks he's using are damages in some way).

As for the PSU, there's no two ways about this, we know it's trash, we don't know if it's actually causing the problem. A DMM might help (but it could be noise/ripple related as well, in which case a DMM is of little use).
post #9 of 25
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I just might post a link to this thread over there.  I was going to try and put some of the replies in my own words.

 

Of course, the more posts, the better.

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post #10 of 25
You may not find a review that condemns that particular unit.

But what you definitely won't find is a review of any decent Diablotek unit. That should make for a pretty compelling case.
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