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:lachen.gif: http://www.overclock.net/t/1218236/diablotek-phd-650-psu-phaedrus-reviews/0_100
I do believe there is a scathing review by OCN's premiere PSU editor,Phaedrus.
ok,maybe different model
Edited by Schmuckley - 2/12/13 at 5:38pm
 
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Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post

:lachen.gif: http://www.overclock.net/t/1218236/diablotek-phd-650-psu-phaedrus-reviews/0_100
I do believe there is a scathing review by OCN's premiere PSU editor,Phaedrus.
ok,maybe different model

 

A thought just occurred to me:  that JonnyGuru review of the 1050W unit and this review by Phaedrus2129 are of Diablotek's better units.  I mean, if their "high-end" and "enthusiast" units are that bad, then how bad are their budget units such as the 600W unit in question?

 

In other words, case closed, but thread always open to new replies.

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Without opening one up and/or putting it on a load tester, it's impossible to provide the type of info you're looking for.

1st. It has Passive PFC, which from the get go makes it bottom of the barrel material.
2nd. From the few pictures available on the web, I can't see any Y caps through the exhaust grill, so (probably) crap to nonexistent EMI filter.
3rd. Fake rating, it's in the spirit of Diablotek's tradition and code of good practice..... and it costs nothing..... doh.
4th. Again, it costs Nothing, a 600W PSU at <20$ should raise a big red flag to anyone boasting a pair of live neurons.

There's a voltage selector switch on it... that means no PFC.

Since all PSUs require PFC to be sold in EU for the last 5 years, all modern PSUs have PFC. This design is probably some left over junk or free design from 6 years ago. Don't touch it.
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So far, I feel like some kind of savior for making him order the 400W Antec NEO ECO to replace it.  He ordered it from Newegg with expedited shipping too!

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So far, I feel like some kind of savior for making him order the 400W Antec NEO ECO to replace it.  He ordered it from Newegg with expedited shipping too!

Thank God, good for him! thumb.gif
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Yeah I had a diabalo tech 500w or perhaps it was the 600w I bought (I think on here a while back...got it really cheap as a bundle) wouldn't even power An unlocked 145 semperon at stock voltage and a hd 4770 kept throwing bsod.
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post #17 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post

There's a voltage selector switch on it... that means no PFC.

Since all PSUs require PFC to be sold in EU for the last 5 years, all modern PSUs have PFC. This design is probably some left over junk or free design from 6 years ago. Don't touch it.
Nope, the voltage selector means precisely that, the presence of a passive PFC (to switch between input AC voltage/frequency), otherwise there would be no point in having a switch, the PFC absence would have simply meant 115v only or 230v only. wink.gif
Though, it could be the case of a "fake PFC"... for "marketing" reasons.
Edited by Original Sin - 2/12/13 at 6:19pm
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Actually, a voltage selection switch can mean either no PFC or passive PFC.

In my experience, you only see fixed voltage passive or non PFC units in rare circumstances because manufacturers know that a design without the switched voltage doubler circuit can only be sold in countries that use that one line voltage. Usually, they throw in the circuit because then the unit can be sold worldwide without doing a lot to alter the design.
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Actually, a voltage selection switch can mean either no PFC or passive PFC.

In my experience, you only see fixed voltage passive or non PFC units in rare circumstances because manufacturers know that a design without the switched voltage doubler circuit can only be sold in countries that use that one line voltage. Usually, they throw in the circuit because then the unit can be sold worldwide without doing a lot to alter the design.
Indeed, flawed logic on my part, because it was experience based, I've never see a unit with an input switch that doesn't have PPFC (except for that remarkable KissQuiet unit with fake PFC that got debated @ JG as well) but that's probably because I'm located in EU.
Still, assuming the presence of PPFC (when a voltage input switch is present) equates to giving them the benefit of the doubt... it's still bottom of the barrel material though.
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Didn't know THE Oklahoma Wolf is on our forums! I think i've seen his avatar before though. I appreciate your reviews on JonnyGuru! Always fun, informative to read! biggrin.gif I read everything on JonnyGuru because of that
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