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I figured I had a long enough hiatus from gaming and as such will build another new system shortly.

I haven't been as caught up as usual on recent tech so I will be looking for feedback on a couple of items.

Plan to have a dual gpu, mid tower system, using an AIO water cooling kit for the CPU while air cooling everything else.

Will be using a single, 120hz 27" monitor as well.

I will likely pick the parts up within the next few days.

Here is what I am planning:

CPU: Intel 3770K
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth Z77
RAM: 2x8 GB 1600mhz kit with best timings (probably going with Patriot Black Mamba, which I had in the past)
SSD: Samsung 840 Series 250GB
Video Cards (2) ASUS GeForce GTX 690 - or - 2 MSI GeForce GTX 680 Twinfrozr
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD
Monitor: Samsung LS27A950DSL This is a 120hz, 27" monitor
Case: PENDING
Mouse: Microsoft Sidewinder (most comfortable for me with FPS games)
Keyboard: Ideazon Merc Stealth (again my keyboard of choice)
CPU Cooling: Corsair AIO kit, or whatever has best results currently
Power Supply Corsair AX850
OS Win 7 64

So, questions:

Haven't kept up on benches, given that the 6990 and a pair of MSI 680's are the same price, any benefit in going with either? I have no plans to tri-sli but also want to be mindful of case airflow.

Case? Really undecided here. I may go with a Coolermaster Storm Scout II (which I owned and really enjoyed) but I welcome other suggestions

CPU cooling, again I am a bit behind on reviews, which AIO kit is currently the best performer? The cpu target clock would be 4.5ghz with HT enabled (no need for more with gaming).


Any other suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks
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is this rig just for gaming? if so, there are a couple changes you can make. you really only need 8gb of ram so i would suggest a kit like this. it is very fast so switching between applications will be almost instant and it has really tight timings. you can also OC these things even faster if you want:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231638

next, this motherboard is significantly better at overclocking both the cpu and ram (basically on par with the m5e) and is also a little cheaper. it is way more stable under load than the sabertooth as well:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157328

for the AIO cooler i would highly highly recommend you wait for this one. it should be available within the next couple of weeks (eta is the end of february) and it is about 5-10 degrees cooler under load compared to the h100i. it also offers much more options in the future if and when you expand.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18290/ex-wat-242/Swiftech_H220_Compact_Drive_II_Plug-and-Play_Liquid_Cooling_System_-_ETA_End_of_February.html

here is a review on it: (skip to about 11 minutes for the benchmarks)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZgctchIQ7M

for graphics cards i would go with 2 of these. they provide tons of overclocking features like tripple overvoltage and it uses a totally custom pcb with really high quality vrm components. it is the best 680 you can get. you can OC this card to about 1300mhz stable on average without a problem:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127693

the case is just personal preference so just make sure you get one that has the features you need (like good cable management and airflow) and looks good at a reasonable price. i just built a new gaming rig into a cooler master haf 932 and i was really impressed with the design. it has great airflow especially for the graphic cards (a 230mm fan blowing directly on them) and it's at a pretty reasonable price so you might want to check that out. with this setup you should be able to hit about 4.8ghz on the 3770k without a problem. hope this helps smile.gif
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7970 is the current GPU king and it also comes with 3GB of VRAM compared to 2 and it's ~$80 less. 7970 should be anyone's choice right now hands down. If you wanted a dual GPU setup, I would say go for 2 7950's which are currently the best bang for your buck right now.

Not to mention the current bundles AMD is offering over Nvidia's free to play cash.

As for a case, I would suggest checking out the NZXT Switch 810 or if you want to stick with Coolermaster, the HAF X has more room and better air flow than the storm scout, which is important for Xfire/SLI as I'm sure you know.
Edited by UsedPaperclip - 2/12/13 at 5:09pm
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It was my understanding that 7970's in crossfire experience more micro stutter in games like BF3 as opposed to SLI arrays.

I had a pair of 680's for quite awhile and got excellent performance from them. I have had many crossfire setups in the past and tended to find irrespective of maximum frame rates, micro stutter was less pronounced with SLI than with Crossfire. Again this may have changed.

With a 120hz monitor (which I had before), consistent frame rates were more important than maximum frame rates. I am aware that driver changes have occurred with AMD recently but has this addressed micro-stutter?

For cases, I owned the HAF X for quite a while (I had the first one here at OCN many moons ago). While fond of it, I got tired of it;s huge size and would prefer a mid. The only NZXT case I have ever owned was the Vulcan, I may have to get a better look at their line up.
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Dizz, regarding the RAM, that is a CL9 kit with fairly loose timings. I assume if were dialed down to 1600mhz, these timings could be improved?


Regarding the motherboard, I tend to stay clear of ASRock, given that it only carries a 2 year warranty compared to 3 with the Asus products. Also, I don't need bleeding edge cpu speed, 4.5 being plenty. I owned the Sabertooth in the past and found it to be extremely stable.


With respect to the video cards, the lightning series are hard to find in Canada (hence the twin frozr selection). If I can find them I will go with those.

The Swiftech cooling kit is not available (to my knowledge) in Canada and shipping from the US is astronomical but again, I will hunt about and see if anyone is carrying it here.

Thanks for your suggestions.
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Dizz, regarding the RAM, that is a CL9 kit with fairly loose timings. I assume if were dialed down to 1600mhz, these timings could be improved?


Regarding the motherboard, I tend to stay clear of ASRock, given that it only carries a 2 year warranty compared to 3 with the Asus products. Also, I don't need bleeding edge cpu speed, 4.5 being plenty. I owned the Sabertooth in the past and found it to be extremely stable.


With respect to the video cards, the lightning series are hard to find in Canada (hence the twin frozr selection). If I can find them I will go with those.

The Swiftech cooling kit is not available (to my knowledge) in Canada and shipping from the US is astronomical but again, I will hunt about and see if anyone is carrying it here.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Definitely. But if you only want 1600mhz ram you can buy something cheaper. For example this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233254

If you want even tighter timings you could get these. I've gotten mine to 6-7-7-18 @1.55v although it does require some tweaking:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096

As for the mobo, if you are not really pushing the OC then yeah the sabertooth is fine especially since it has a better warranty. The water cooler will be available in Canada at the same time it is here in the US. NCIX will be selling it so check their website. smile.gif
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Thanks for the link. I saw it will be available through NCIX later this month. I can use the stock cooler until it is released.

I would really like to be able to set it up with 4 fans for push-pull. Problem is, there aren't any mid tower cases I am aware of that have that much room up top. I could go back to a HAF X or something in that size range, but I would prefer to minimize the footprint.
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Awesome parts! Good luck with your build man!
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You might get away with push pull with the NZXT switch. If I remember that correctly from top of the case to the motherboard are 65mm. Plus You can add a pair of fans in top of the case. Sry a bit hard to explain.

And regarding the RAM:
You could go for the samsung ones. Great kit. Not expensive. Run it at stock 1600MHz.
Since you will have an IVY -> When you are bored get them to 2400Mhz or even higher.

Great value for money kit. Even I with my crappy SB-E IMC was able to push it to +2400MHz.

Good luck with your build and have a lot of fun.
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The switch 810 has 90mm of clearance and the swiftech with dual fans is 80mm so it will fit but no door fans to cool dual gpu's could be an issue
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Samsung 75" TV.... GooBang Doo MX3 Corsair CX430 V2 NMEDIAPC HTPC 6000B w/ Pro LCD Module 
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GooBang Doo MX3 
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Murder Box II
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Home PC
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 8700k Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 7 Zotac 1080Ti AMP Extreme Edition G. Skill Trident Z - 32GB/ 3200Hz/CL14/Dual 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Sandisk Extreme Pro 480GB Corsair H100i V2 - w/ML120 Pro Fans  Windows 10 Home 64 Bit Acer Z35P 1440P G-Sync 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Delux T9 Pro / Logitech K360 EVGA Supernova G2 1000W Corsair 750D Airflow Mionix Naos 7000 
Mouse PadAudioAudioOther
Perixx DX-3000LAL Aluminum Sound Blaster Z Logitech Z906 - 5.1 Maxnomic Commander S-III Gaming Chair 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel G3440 Asus B85M-E/CSM EVGA GTX 950 Patriot Viper 3 - 2x8GB 1600hz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung EVO 850 - 500GB + 4TB/3TB x 2/2TB WD Green LG CH12LS28 Bluray Scythe Big Shuriken 2 w/Corsair SP120 Fan Windows 10 64 Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 75" TV.... GooBang Doo MX3 Corsair CX430 V2 NMEDIAPC HTPC 6000B w/ Pro LCD Module 
Mouse
GooBang Doo MX3 
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