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10 000 units isn't actually that bad. How many cards do you guys actually think will be sold? I doubt there are much more 690s or 590s than that in the world.
They have nothing to counter it with.

You don't have any idea what AMD has to counter it with. My point was they don't really need to as this will be a very niche product...
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You don't have any idea what AMD has to counter it with. My point was they don't really need to as this will be a very niche product...

And nvidia could have a magical 15 billion transistor GPU.

Without any proof of anything similarly sized from AMD it's fair to say they have nothing to counter it with.

But yes you are correct about it being niche. The bigger advantage really is the marketing buzz that comes with having a card like titan.
 
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You don't have any idea what AMD has to counter it with. My point was they don't really need to as this will be a very niche product...
They could counter it if they remove most of the gpgpu out their cards then double everything.
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They could counter it if they remove most of the gpgpu out their cards then double everything.
Designing a GPU is a not a process than can be accomplished in a year these days.
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Designing a GPU is a not a process than can be accomplished in a year these days.
It isn't really designing if you take a chip that you already had made.
They seen it coming that nvidia focused on 3d performance rather than both in the next gens as even enthusiasts start to go more "windows 8"/"tablet works well".
While we all know that the real working class can't function without a proper interface or a proper keyboard.

For gamers a pro for those who actually do gpu accelerated rendering a big miss.
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While I may not be able to own one of these gnarly titans, I will be able to buy another GTX 670 thanks to titan devil.gif
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Also I must ask to all of your who are looking to buy Titan who currently have a single 670 or 7970. What kept you from going crossfire or Sli before? It can't be funds because you seem perfectly fine with shelling out double what you currently have in a gpu for Titan.

Good question, my answer is this.

I am not a fan of multiple GPU's in a system, while SLi and XFire have come a long way in stability, scaling, and performance, it still isn't perfect. So, I went with the highest end single GPU on the market for my setup at the time. I considered going XFire, and still am, but held off as there were enough rumors of a "monster" card coming, either an early Maxwell or "something else". These rumors go back at least a year, we are just now seeing them in the form of Titan.

Now, here I sit, awaiting the official benchmarks and performance reviews of Titan. If they are what I hope them to be I will only have to sell one 7970, if they aren't, I can add another 7970. Also, the price point is something of a factor on Titan. At $1000 I would pass, I can buy a GTX 690 for just over $900 and have better performance, granted it is a dual GPU card. I can also buy a 7970 for just over $300 right now, again giving me higher performance than a single Titan for a faction of the cost at this time.

To put that further into perspective, if Titan is $1000, I can take that same $1000 and upgrade to a 3930K, and get the second 7970.

Being honest on the situation, I think Titan is going to disappoint. I honestly believe it is going to be maybe 50% better than a 7970 or 680, fall well short of 690 performance, and be $1,000+. I already have the upgrades for SB-E in my shopping cart ready to order. Just waiting, and hoping, Titan is really a Titan of a card...
    
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You don't have any idea what AMD has to counter it with. My point was they don't really need to as this will be a very niche product...

It's a safe assumption that AMD doesn't have a single GPU ready to counter this Titan. Just like it was a safe assumption that GK104 was NOT NVIDIA's high end chip. Only those in denials refused to accept that GK110 existed, and a card based on it was possible.

There will be tons of people who say that buying 2 7950's will match or beat the Titan. Or, they could buy 3 7950's and outright beat a Titan for the same price, etc. But what are those same people going to do to beat 2 Titans in SLI? Run 6 7950's? rolleyes.gif

Point is, this Titan will be in a league of its own ( and priced accordingly ), and there's nothing AMD can do to match or beat it, since they don't have a SINGLE GPU die big enough to counter it.

I'm aware that AMD COULD officially release a 7990 made by other companies other than Powercolor. But they're resorting to taking 2 GPU's to battle 1.

My comparisons are strictly single GPU vs single GPU, and I can confidently say that AMD doesn't have anything to counter Titan right now. Just like I confidently stated that GK104 was NOT NVIDIA's high end CHIP, and they had something bigger as their highend in GK110!
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Why is Nvidia killing us with reference only titans?!?! A MSI Lightning Titan with voltage control would have me swiping my credit card with no thanks given.
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It's a safe assumption that AMD doesn't have a single GPU ready to counter this Titan. Just like it was a safe assumption that GK104 was NOT NVIDIA's high end chip. Only those in denials refused to accept that GK110 existed, and a card based on it was possible.

There will be tons of people who say that buying 2 7950's will match or beat the Titan. Or, they could buy 3 7950's and outright beat a Titan for the same price, etc. But what are those same people going to do to beat 2 Titans in SLI? Run 6 7950's? rolleyes.gif

Point is, this Titan will be in a league of its own ( and priced accordingly ), and there's nothing AMD can do to match or beat it, since they don't have a SINGLE GPU die big enough to counter it.

I'm aware that AMD COULD officially release a 7990 made by other companies other than Powercolor. But they're resorting to taking 2 GPU's to battle 1.

My comparisons are strictly single GPU vs single GPU, and I can confidently say that AMD doesn't have anything to counter Titan right now. Just like I confidently stated that GK104 was NOT NVIDIA's high end CHIP, and they had something bigger as their highend in GK110!

I recall reading that Nivida only plans on making a handful of Titans.

If they do go the Limited Edition route, then you can bet your rear end that it's going to be worse than the 590's or 6990's supply issues. And forget about getting an SLI of them if they're limited edition.
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