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Would you please stop posting that arabic nonsense graph all over the place like it means anything? I could have made that graph for God sake...
post #832 of 999
COME ON REVIEWS!!!!

I need to see if that graph with surround scaling is for real, if so I think I may need 3 of these babies!!!


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Every one here has Crysis 3 pre ordered right??? I did, this way if I do get 3 titans I can bench them against my 4 Classified 680's and see how much BETTER 3 is than 4 LOL HAHAHA
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...I'm totally sold on Samsung's PLS panels but I don't want to spend so much $$$ on monitors when my Korean IPS still look so good for only $200 a piece...
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post #834 of 999
If those surround numbers are actual values that have been tested. I also wonder if driver's could be a factor ... titan's might have been tested with newer drivers that would also benefit the 680's/690's ... just a thought tongue.gif


edit: see like this http://www.clubic.com/carte-graphique/carte-graphique-nvidia/actualite-542228-nvidia-sort-pilotes-geforce-314-07-crysis-3.html
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Samsung = Korean
The displays he means are LG screens in a cheap casing they are the same as samsung's except for the pcb's inside and the cheaper ones have backlight bleeding like hell.
post #836 of 999
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Originally Posted by maarten12100 View Post

They are a multiplier with sli gtx690 as base.
Doesn't really matter in terms of performance but what does matter is quad gk104 is actually only 3 way as the 4th doesn't scale in anything except battlefield 3.
I will OC the crap out of this and put it under water if necessary.

For my price analysis I took the tdp of the Titan divided it by 173W the tdp of the Gtx 680 @ stock.
In this theory I accounted for a linear increase in power/performance like we have seen on both Kepler and Tahiti.
The board can draw a max of 300W pci-e + 6pin + 8pin but it will only accumulate a maximum of 250W.
250/173 is a factor 1.445 in performance over the gtx680
We take a gtx680 with 4GB = 480 euro x K = 693 euro account for 2GB of extra ram 750 euro account for special limited card 850 euro.

(Once you OC and actually pull the 300W and scaling linear power/performance you would get to a factor 1.7 over a gtx680 which is great)

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Originally Posted by raghu78 View Post

i don't think RAM price is responsible for such a significant price increase on the HD 7970 6GB. its just that companies like to make a lot more margins on these cards. so they introduce new SKUs with extra RAM and try to sell with better margins. the extra VRAM might be required in very few cases. One of the examples which hardocp showed was Hitman Absolution aat 5760 x 1080 required more than 3 GB even for 2x MSAA. but there are very few cases. Even BF3 runs perfectly with 3GB at 5760 x 1080 Ultra 4X MSAA.

also Titan seems to be 30 - 35% on avg faster than HD 7970 Ghz which sells for USD 450. definitely the lack of competition is the primary reason for Titan's price. Nvidia's Titan chip is similar die size to GF110 and even accounting for the extra VRAM they should be selling at USD 650. the fact that AMD has no product which competes with Titan gives Nvidia the freedom to price the way they want it . thumb.gif

The primary reason for Titan's price is its robust memory system. 6GB of 384bit GDDR5 is a major input cost for nvidia. It's a feature that is designed for one thing - to allow SLI Titan setups to achieve unprecedented scaling at high resolutions.

If you're not attempting to drive a 5MP+ monitor setup, or you can't afford more than one Titan, you're not maximizing performance/$. If you are driving 5MP+, multiple Titans in the only way to maximize performance/$.
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Your math is way off.
....

is it.

Firestrike - HD 7970 Ghz - 77. Titan - 100 ( 77 x 1.3 = 100.1) . so 30% faster
BF3 - HD 7970 Ghz - 74. Titan - 100 ( 74 x 1.35 = 99.90 ) . so 35% faster
Hitman - HD 7970 Ghz - 81. Titan - 100 ( 81 x 1.24 = 100.44) . so 24% faster
Farcry 3 - HD 7970 Ghz - 70. Titan - 100 ( 70 x 1.43 = 100.1) . so 43% faster
Crysis 2 - HD 7970 Ghz - 68. Titan - 100 (68 x 1.47 = 99.96) . so 47% faster

all these are dx11 apps. (30+ 35 + 24+ 43+ 47 ) / 5 = 35.8 . so yeah its 35% faster on avg.
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I really want this theater to end gimme real reviews and price PLZ
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durrr its the 18th so where is it?
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The primary reason for Titan's price is its robust memory system. 6GB of 384bit GDDR5 is a major input cost for nvidia. It's a feature that is designed for one thing - to allow SLI Titan setups to achieve unprecedented scaling at high resolutions.

If you're not attempting to drive a 5MP+ monitor setup, or you can't afford more than one Titan, you're not maximizing performance/$. If you are driving 5MP+, multiple Titans in the only way to maximize performance/$.

all i meant to say is that Titan's sale price is linked to lack of competition not Bill of materials. Nvidia would have sold the Titan with 6GB of VRAM at USD 700 if there was a product from AMD which came close to Titan performance (90% perf) and was priced at USD 500. In fact Nvidia might also have released a 3GB SKU at USD 600. extra 3GB of GDDR5 RAM is not the reason for Nvidia to increase prices by USD 300. Lack of competiton is. if you remember 3GB GTX 580 was 100 bucks costlier than 1.5 GB version and sold at USD 600. why is it now Nvidia is charging USD 300 more for a similar sized chip. you have to remember that the number of memory chips was the same on GTX 580 3GB (12 x 2 = 24) . even assuming another 100 bucks for the higher capacity RAM the price should have been USD 700.
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