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Ok so soon I will be building a high end system for gaming. I am just going to write down what I have ( keeping ) and what I want to upgrade too, please help me find the best config / parts . budget is around $2800

Parts I have:
Case: HAF X
PSU: 850W CM silent pro.
CPU cooler: H100
HD: 500GB storage drive. I don't require a new or larger size one.

What I want.

CPU & mobo: I am pretty much dead set on getting the 3930k /Rampage IV extreme.

GPU: GTX 690

RAM: was thinking some of that 32GB Gskill for LGA 2011 not sure. I can probably settle for just 16GB and then I dont have to upgrade my OS (suggestions? I will be overclocking the CPU to atleast 4.4-4.5ghz)

SSD: I have no idea of what ones I would get. I was thinking 2x 240-256GB to put into Raid 0. I hear the speeds are amazing. but is it really worth spending that much? I do love performance. SSD storage isnt too big of a deal. But I was just thinking why not get 2x 250GB SSD that way I can just have all of my games on a super fast drive.

And info will be helpful thanks.

I am mainly playing BF3 right now. But I want to build a rig that will be able to run games like it in the future. with maximum FPS.

Current computer:

Parts I have + HIS 5850, Phenom 2 x6 1055t, 60GB ssd (obv cant get BF3 + my OS onto it.)

Budget is pretty strict. I am getting a 0 interest loan from a work program to build a computer. Pretty much for sure getting the CPU/GPU/MOBO just need help on the other stuff.
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With a mobo like that why not just get two gtx670's instead of one gtx690? the 670's are faster/cheaper
Both ways your still using SLI
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With a mobo like that why not just get two gtx670's instead of one gtx690? the 670's are faster/cheaper
Both ways your still using SLI

Hardly. The GTX 690 is a pair of full GK104's on a single PCB that are merely clocked lower. At best, the 670's would be equal to the 690 at maximum clocks.

However, the pair of 670's would be considerably cheaper. yessir.gif

Don't put SSD's in RAID 0. There's rarely a reason to do so unless you have an app that requires >1Gigabyte per second reads/writes. It won't make a difference day to day.

3930k + RIVE is a great combo if you can afford it. The RAM doesn't matter as much. Gskill makes some really nice kits.
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A 690 is pretty much equivalent to two 680's, not two 670's. And if you're going to run dual cards anyways (since the 690 is a dual card) it's more efficient to run the 690 than it is to run two 680's in SLI.
Unless you can get a good deal on 680's, it's better to run the single 690. Less power consumption, less space taken up, very similar performance, very similar price.

If you're going for two 670's it will be cheaper, but not the same level of performance. Two 670's in SLI is not as good as one 690.
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A 690 is pretty much equivalent to two 680's, not two 670's. And if you're going to run dual cards anyways (since the 690 is a dual card) it's more efficient to run the 690 than it is to run two 680's in SLI.
Unless you can get a good deal on 680's, it's better to run the single 690. Less power consumption, less space taken up, very similar performance, very similar price.

If you're going for two 670's it will be cheaper, but not the same level of performance. Two 670's in SLI is not as good as one 690.

Aye. That's the big one for me. I just don't like the though of 4/6 or 4/7 slots being consumed for graphics. I use my PC as a general workstation and thus need other expandability, which is why I use a single 480 and a few expansion cards.
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Hold off buying until Feb 18th. The Geforce Titan is due out then, so you may want that card instead of a 690.

For ram, 16GB is more than enough for the next while. GSkill Ripjaws are good, Tridents if you want really high clocks.

Samsung 840 Pro, Plextor M5P, or OCZ Vector for SSDs. I agree with coachmark that you don't need to put them in Raid 0, but if you want to spend the money on it, by all means. You will lose TRIM as a result though.

The rest of it looks good.
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A 690 is pretty much equivalent to two 680's, not two 670's. And if you're going to run dual cards anyways (since the 690 is a dual card) it's more efficient to run the 690 than it is to run two 680's in SLI.
Unless you can get a good deal on 680's, it's better to run the single 690. Less power consumption, less space taken up, very similar performance, very similar price.

If you're going for two 670's it will be cheaper, but not the same level of performance. Two 670's in SLI is not as good as one 690.

Really depends if the savings of power and less heat matter to OP.

Really at stock a gtx690 and sli gtx670s are not that far apart, GTX690 is still not as fast as full on sli gtx680. With the 690 turboing around 1000-1100, while the gtx670 at stock turbos around 1100-1150. Sure the GTX690 may be slightly faster, but not enough to warrant the cost IMO.

Though with Max OCs you can get GTX670s into the 1250-1350 range and the GTX690 can be a hit or a miss and with heat limitations your probably only good for 1200-1250. And unless your tossing a block onto the gtx690, the gtx670's still have more going for them in terms of potential.

If OP was looking to maximize fps/price I would go 670 sli
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Ok thanks for all the input! I will be going with the 690 because I can afford to get one and don't need to penny pinch on something like a GPU. I was mainly just wondering about the SSD's in raid / the 32GBvs 16GB ram.

So final build will look something like this:

CPU: 3930K
GPU: 690
MOBO: Rampage IV extreme
RAM: 16GB GSkill Ripjaws
SSD: 250GB
PSU: 850W CM silent pro
CASE: HAF X
Storage drive: WD caviar black
CPU cooling: H100


One other question I have is for the fans on the H100 what ones would be best to keep it quiet? Right now I just have stock fans in a push config with the 200mm fan. when my 1055T gets to 40 degrees and I have the H100 on high performance it gets really loud. I want to keep it a little bit more quiet for when I OC the 3930k but I also want to make sure I have proper cooling.

Also any major difference in the Rampage IV extreme and the Rampage IV besides the 5PCI-E vs 4PCI-E
Edited by Gaupz - 2/12/13 at 9:38pm
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Maybe look at some Corsair SP120 Quiet Editions. They have good static pressure which is important for radiators.
Edited by Dctr - 10/7/13 at 8:00am
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