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Hello, excuse me if i have posted in the wrong place (so many options) I am considering buying another hd6870 to setup crossfire. I have done some research and i am concerned i may be wasting my cash running 2 of the said gpu's because of cpu's bottlenecking or whatever.

The system specs are below and i guess i am just looking for some advice on what to do from here before i spend any money. I understand the basics when it comes to this kind of thing but for the most part it all confuses me.

Any help or advice from someone with more brains than me would be much appreciated.

Thank you











Windows 7 64 bit os

Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz

Memory: 8192MB RAM

Available OS Memory: 8192MB RAM

Page File: 2360MB used, 14019MB available

Windows Dir: C:\Windows

DirectX Version: DirectX 11

Gpu - Saphire hd6870

Psu - 800w
post #2 of 25
Ok, sell the 6870 and save up for a 7950 or a 7970, second buy a new CPU or overclock that one with a good cooler.

What games do you plan to play and @ what resolution
     
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I had considered just going with a new card but wondered if running 2 6870's would be a cheaper and more effective way of doing things. Overclocking is a little out of my depth and knowledge. Is installing new cpu easy to do?

My native resolution is 1920x1080 and to be honest this pc plays most games really well. Skyrim (modded) Borderlands 2, Arma etc etc. I just want to upgrade as i go rather than have to shell out a huge lump of cash in 1 go when this rig is not upto the task anymore.

OC'ing seems kinda dangerous from what i have read and watched. Although i might have a go bit by bit. There are 3 fans inside the base unit already. 1 blowing down from the psu, another attached to the motherboard and the other attached to the case of base unit.

Thanks for getting back to me, although i really don't know how to proceed O.o
post #4 of 25
CPU install is very easy.

1, Unscrew CPU heatsink
2, Pop out safety latch
3, take CPU out
4,Put CPU In
5,Close safety latch
6 reatach CPU cooler

Thats all
     
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That does sound quite straight forward. So after thinking of other possible upgrades i have seen that with my mobo M4A7TTD pro, it would appear the best compatible CPU i can install would be X4 970 Black Edition Deneb 3.5GHz.

What kind of gain would i get from switching from Phenom ii x4 945 to X4 970 Black Edition Deneb 3.5GHz along with the resst of my specs listed on my opening comment?
post #6 of 25
Not worth it M8, Save up some money and but something like this

FX4300 or FX6300
ASRock Extreme3 or 4
Buy a 7950 or 7870

To upgrdae to a CPU that is over 4 generations old is nonsense, unless you can get it for free but still it would bottleneck most cards
     
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Originally Posted by Pedroc1999 View Post

Not worth it M8, Save up some money and but something like this

FX4300 or FX6300
ASRock Extreme3 or 4
Buy a 7950 or 7870

To upgrdae to a CPU that is over 4 generations old is nonsense, unless you can get it for free but still it would bottleneck most cards

This.

Best advice you could have.
    
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Originally Posted by icanhasburgers View Post

This.

Best advice you could have.

No worries, hope OP takes the right decision
     
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post #9 of 25
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Ok, thanks guys. I am going to take your advice on this. From googling the specs you listed it would appear the total cost is around £500 give or take. the only thing that confuses me here is there is so much variety of these ASRock Extreme3 or 4 mobos. I am assuming 4 is better than 3 and the fx6300 is better than fx4300?

The other option i am looking at is pc specialist. The total cost of them building 1 with modern components is around £900 for the likes of the latest mobo, GPU, PSU and i7 ect. Money is not really a problem for me at this particular moment although my partner will have a field day at my greedy investment =/

Thank you all so much for taking the time to post and advise.
post #10 of 25
The FX6300 has the best Power/Price, for about £100 you get better performance than a £110 i3 and 6 cores with an unlocked multiplier

The Extreme3 isnt very good tbh, it hasnt got the best VRMs and puts to muchvoltage on the chip. But the Extreme4 is packed full of features at a good price (~£75)
     
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