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Here's how it is, if you're going to spend $200+ for a HD598... I'd suggest you get a Beyerdynamics DT770Pro instead (for a closed headphone, DT770 isn't bad at all for positioning accuracy).
If you're all about positional accuracy among all else, then Audio Technica ATH AD900x. It's about $70 more expensive on Amazon, maybe if you can find a better deal elsewhere then go for it.

Otherwise, for the best trade-off between the 2 middle ground would be a HD558. You could get it for $150 and I think that's a pretty decent price.

I know some are going to recommend you the ATH-AD700, but a word of caution (as I've told many)... the headband design may or may not bother you. For me, it was so uncomfortable that no matter how good it sounded, it was just useless to me. Trust me, it's a big deal. If you can't keep em' on, there's no use how good a headphone sounds.

I agree, and even the Audio technica ath-ad900 (non X) is still going to sound a tad warmer than the 598s.

To be accurate in this situation, we have to understand that the 598s are pretty efficient. This means that when you amp them, you don't get that much of a boost in sound quality. The headphones sound ok on pretty much anything, but all they will ever be is 'ok'.

The audio technica headphones are a bit more responsive to better audio gear. Meaning the better the gear you have, the better your headphones will sound.

I just got my tube amp the other day, and when you plug the 598s into them, it sounds exactly the same as my receiver, and it sounds the same as with my sound card.

I put the ad900s on it and they sound MUCH warmer on the tubes, they sound Ok on the sound card, and they suck on the receiver.

The reason I am pushing this is because I know the OP has slowly been buying better audio gear that will properly drive the audio technica headphones.
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I would say the following are good buys in this price range

Sennheiser hd 598

Sennheiser hd 558 (soundstage is smaller than 598 and bass isn't as tight and detailed)

Akg k702 or Q701 (they're the same headphone. great detail, a little harsh at the top end, but many people like this. Great build quality, needs a good amp/powerfull output)

Audio technica ath ad900 (a little bass shy and the headband isn't good for small heads, not as big a problem as with the ath ad700. Other than that they're almost perfect for this price range)

Personally i would avoid the beyerdynamics, they may sound excellent but they're far to easy to blow, they have very low power handling, a shame really because they sound great. So maybe you might want to give them a go, but don't push them too hard if you do choose beyers.

IMHO you're safest bet would be the hd598's or if you want to save a little just get the 558's they're amazing for the price.
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Personally i would avoid the beyerdynamics, they may sound excellent but they're far to easy to blow, they have very low power handling, a shame really because they sound great. So maybe you might want to give them a go, but don't push them too hard if you do choose beyers..

You've blown Beyers? This is the first time I've heard of that happening (I own some, so it's a bit alarming to me).
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ok, ill look around.. and ya, friend employee discount. but they do have all those headphones, including high end ones like hd800's you just have to search the name, some reason they are in other audio, its like when they get to nice they are not qualified as headphones anymore lol

can you recommend a $400 set not at best buy? also a decent amp if it will make the sound better, if the sound will be better even with a sound blaster titanium hd
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I've never owned beyers personally. My uncle has blown 2 pairs on a stereo amp output, i did some googling when i was considering some beyers myself, many people said their drivers are very fragile. Also beyers only have a 100mw power handling, this is very low, the sennheisers are 500mw and akg are 200mw.
All i'm saying is if you like to listen loud beyers are not the best choice. The rest of the beyers build is rock solid though.

If the op has a good enough amp though, he should consider the akg k702, they really do need a good amp though, if you want them to sound at there best.
If you're not sure your amp is upto it just get the sennheisers, i personally find them the most musically pleasing anyway, i have to be in the mood for my k702's even though they are technichally better than the 598's. and judging by my auditioning only of the ad900, the k702's do seem better than the ath ad900 too. i've never heard the ath ad900x version so i cant comment on them, maybe they are better than the k702's idk?
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I've never owned beyers personally. My uncle has blown 2 pairs on a stereo amp output, i did some googling when i was considering some beyers myself, many people said their drivers are very fragile. Also beyers only have a 100mw power handling, this is very low, the sennheisers are 500mw and akg are 200mw.
All i'm saying is if you like to listen loud beyers are not the best choice. The rest of the beyers build is rock solid though.

Though I think this might just be fodder for another topic, apparently a common-ish issue with Beyers (and hi-fi headphones in general) is that they will develop a rattle if there is a hair that has somehow gotten onto the driver. That might have been the issue with your uncle's cans.
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hmmm, interesting, for my part of the topic, i heard hifimans are good, and are the k702's open or closed because when im at my comp, idont have to worry about the worlds noise biggrin.gif
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Oh I forgot, but if you want headphones with a specific personality, steer clear of HD598s. Their signature is practically zero, hell, you could use them as monitors. They're absolutely neutral.
   
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Liquidzoo, yeah it may simply be down to a hair, if they were my beyers i would have opened them and checked. I did have a pair of hd590's that kept getting hair in them, it used to make them sound blown so you may be wright.

Must agree that the 598's are very nuetral but with a slightly forward upper mid/lower trebble.

Hifimans are very good based on what time ive spent with them in shops, they are way over priced in the UK though. I hear they're much cheaper in the US, so you should certainly consider them if you find any at the wright price point.

Yes akg k702/q701 are open backed.
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ok, so out of all those, would you recommend the akg q701, k702, or audio technica ATH-AD900X and why? also remember i have the titanium hd, so it does have an onboard amp, otherwise if i will get better quality with an external amp, what would you recommend on that?
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