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$2000 for a 13" laptop? Feels like the 1990's.
Except back then, this would have been new tech.

Aren't you glad you didn't buy one then..glad you dodged that bullet.
 
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I just bought my daughter a Macbook Pro for Xmas. Her biggest complaint? It only had a 500GB hard drive. I find it puzzling how people are happy with only 128GB of storage on a laptop. Sure on a gaming PC or a tablet it may not matter as much but ITunes downloaded video, personal videos and everything else can take up a lot of space. I'm not a fan of cloud storage with laptops (can never count on having wi-fi everywhere).

Sure SSD's are faster, but I think the steps that companies like Asus and Samsung have taken (in my ultrabook for example) is providing a small SSD for hybrid cache and then a mechanical drive for storage. That way you get speed plus storage.

I can't see music and video using more space than my games, only a female would need so much music on one device. tongue.gif
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I can't see music and video using more space than my games, only a female would need so much music on one device. tongue.gif

Just my music...
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77G     /mnt/files/music/
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Also confused how a 128 or even a 256gb ssd is enough. I have a 60gb ssd and a 750gb in my g73. The solid state is in the red zone and I have about 200gb free on my hard drive. Granted its somewhat of a gaming pc. It can physically run crysis. Lol

Because most of us would use an external, or networked HDDs for storage.
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i had a dell latitude. i dropped it twice and it ruined the motherboard, though externally it looked fine. you should not drop any laptop regularly that is not a toughbook, because even if the externals are tough, the internals are very delicate. dropping a x86 product is very different than dropping an integrated arm product

Depends on the laptop, some are really fragile.
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You and your placebo effect.

This, again? It's not a placebo effect, it certainly is noticable and it certainly is an important feature.

I'm short sighted (Can't see further than 10cm away clearly without corrective lenses) and I can clearly see the difference between relatively small PPI differences. (eg. Going from SGSII to HTC Desire)
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Originally Posted by doomlord52 View Post

Don't bother. He'll keep saying "RETINA! RETINA" regardless of what you post. Apple's got one advantage, which he thinks makes them better than absolutely everything else.

Besides, the macbook makes the worst use of its screen - the OS doesn't even render at 1:1. And then when you force it to render at native, the whole thing catches fire rolleyes.gif

Yes, because the track-pad and keyboard on a Macbook aren't clearly better than your average laptop. (Never used a Zenbook, so I can't comment on its keyboard)

Have you even tried a 1600P 13" screen at native res? You need a magnifying glass to actually see anything.
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People do not buyMac's to run Windows, it's just a nice side benefit if you like/need that sort of thing.

Apart from the lack of GPU switching, I'd get a MBPr even if I ended up just running either Windows or Linux on it, I don't like OS X but the MBPr is one of the best laptops on the market today if you don't really need ultra fast GPU performance or CPU performance.
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So just a quick question; Why is it OK to buy a $900 graphics card or 2, but not a $1500 notebook?

Because the extra 20% performance is much more noticable than the best track-pad on any laptop, one of the best keyboards, one of the best screens, great battery life, etc. wink.gif

Most people on OCN wouldn't need a laptop, they just need their desktops.
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HD4000 can't display more then 1600p

Driver limitation in Windows, Apple (iirc) got that fixed in OS X and the actual hardware side can support up to 4K iirc.
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The 650m struggles to run the basic desktop at the "retina" resolution

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The much, much, much, much, much slower x1950Pro likely could render a desktop at 1800p, to say that a modern GPU struggles to render a high resolution desktop...Well, I can't do the maths for sure at the moment but I'm pretty sure by your logic a G210 wouldn't render a 1080p screen at all. If you're talking about games..oh boy. I was just gaming on an 9800GTX+ at 1080p before I got my HD7950, the 9800GTX+ would be slower than the GT650M if I'm reading correctly...Sure, you won't be maxing out Crysis on it but you certainly can do the typical kind of gaming you'd do on a laptop.

You might get a bit of lag here and there in GPU accelerated things...but I've seen that happen from other causes, or just in general for what seems to be no reason at all, every PC has hung at one point even if you didn't notice it. (Chrome in partiuclar is good at hiding it, so while OCN tabs hang when I open a tonne of them I can still use Facebook, etc tabs at full speed)
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I can't see music and video using more space than my games, only a female would need so much music on one device. tongue.gif

Just my music...
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[sarge@seeder-1 ~]$ du -sh /mnt/files/music/
77G     /mnt/files/music/

If I was home I'd put mine up, but I'm just under 200GB of music alone right now, ~800GB of ripped movies and TV shows last I checked (I buy DVDs and BRs then rip them, as it's much easier to view them that way than digging out the DVD from my many boxes of them and hoping I find the right one quickly, I do the same with music and games)
    
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If I was home I'd put mine up, but I'm just under 200GB of music alone right now, ~800GB of ripped movies and TV shows last I checked (I buy DVDs and BRs then rip them, as it's much easier to view them that way than digging out the DVD from my many boxes of them and hoping I find the right one quickly, I do the same with music and games)

I do the same, definitely a lot easier and more convenient that way. Have 2 walls of DVD's and BluRays ( not all are archived though ), would be a pain to have to look through them all manually if I didn't know what I wanted. Believe I'm somewhere around 5TB of movies / tv shows atm on my file server tongue.gif
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If I was home I'd put mine up, but I'm just under 200GB of music alone right now, ~800GB of ripped movies and TV shows last I checked (I buy DVDs and BRs then rip them, as it's much easier to view them that way than digging out the DVD from my many boxes of them and hoping I find the right one quickly, I do the same with music and games)

I do the same, definitely a lot easier and more convenient that way. Have 2 walls of DVD's and BluRays ( not all are archived though ), would be a pain to have to look through them all manually if I didn't know what I wanted. Believe I'm somewhere around 5TB of movies / tv shows atm on my file server tongue.gif

Nice, I put all of my media in old case boxes (I've got 3 empty ones I'm ready to use) after ripping it with MakeMKV and then compressing it with Handbrake to make it easy.
    
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There is a difference between 2d and 3d rendering processes. Anandtech also stated "lag" while viewing Facebook. [1]

This was an issue due to how the two different graphics processes handled the UI and is now fixed, AFAIK.
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Under demanding applications and or Youtube viewing, it achieves a much higher CPU and GPU temperature then laptops over half the price. [2]. My gaming laptop with a custom 570m that performs like a desktop GTX460 doesn't even get that bad while gaming (GPU temps are the same, though).

You claim I'm cherry picking then say something like that? By this logic an iPad is better than your gaming laptop because it stays cooler. It doesn't matter if it stays cooler, if the computer doesn't overheat or hit tjmax, there's no issue. How can you not understand that?
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The battery does not last more then 8 hours. [3]

I said for light browsing that mine did, and it did. I would like to point you to the part in the reference you provided where the reviewer states "It’s a great way of estimating battery life if you’re going to be using your notebook as a glorified typewriter (likely a conservative estimate for that usage model).". Given that the reviewer got 7.5 hours from theirs with the screen set far brighter than I use it, my claim is totally justified here.
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Then you have no understanding of image rendering nor what image interpolation even means. Go look it up and educate yourself.

I do, I just don't care enough about it to discern it. Nor do most people. This basis for not liking it is literally a last grasp at finding an issue with a great product.
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You didn't even quote the same hardware and picked a 512 GB SSD. The Dell website I'm on doesn't even give that option.

I did, you even quoted it (in the red box)-



Odd, the Alienware site does for me-


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You cherry picked a gaming laptop that are not even considered the same product. You should have picked a Clevo/Sager non-Apple hater or maybe an actual laptop that compares with the device (i.e. a home laptop). A Lenovo Y580 already destroys this (and gives better screen quality, in terms of colour reproduction, at 1366x768)..

I didn't cherry pick anything, I simply looked at the easiest laptop to find which had the same spec. That Lenovo is good value spec wise, but that's it. I wouldn't compare it to something like the retina MacBook because it's not even in the same league in terms of a high quality, well built device. And come on, 1366x768? My phone is almost that resolution. Screens at that resolution look absolutely dreadful regardless of how good the colour is at that size.
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Then you have no understanding of image rendering nor what image interpolation even means. Go look it up and educate yourself.

i guess it kind of "upscales" lower rez images (just like a 1080p display does). but if you have a high rez photo, i think it won't alter the image at all
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I honestly wish that Sentinel would come in here and close this thread. Grow up. People that want it will buy it, people that don't; won't. Shut up about the hate from one side or another, it doesn't solve anything.
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http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/accessories/macbook_pro_retina.shtml

if anyone is interested in how it deals with images here's a website that describes how it handles the ui and photos and text differently:
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...if you were to run the screen at full resolution text and icons would be so small that you'd need a magnifying glass to see them. Photos look amazing, and you can watch an HD movie in just part of the screen, but it would be a bit impractical for doing work because of the menu and text size issues.

Apple's solution is an API (Application Program Interface) that software developers can address that allows text elements, such as menus, to be at one resolution and raster scan elements, such as images, graphics and video, to be at another."
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