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This is what I use. It's a LaCie HDD. The cable is nice and short, it's very lightweight, it's fast, and since visual design matters to me, it's perfectly matched to my MBPr. It's preformatted for OSX out of the box, but comes with a preinstalled app to partition part of it for cross platform FAT so I can move files with Windows machines.

Nice, it looks pretty good. That kind of setup was actually what was thinking of.
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I find it puzzling how people are happy with less than the 30 or so TB attached to my Mac Pro. I mean how do you guys do? I only have a few thousand movies, a couple hundred thousand songs, 7 years of home videos, 8 years of work projects, 8 years worth of pictures..


WAIT no I remember file management and external HDD's This isn't rocket science if the data is important i shouldn't be in an easily stolen and damaged laptop it should be on an external that doesn't stay plugged in. I mean thats the same way you store the clones of your drives right?

Perhaps you haven't met my wife or my daughter... They have no interest in using external storage devices (And both have macbook pro's). My parents both have laptops as well and despite my repeated attempts to get them to utilize external storage, they patently refuse. Mind you, they will use such devices for periodic back up (my wife and daughter will not do even that, I have to do it for them).

I get that you are a user that understands the benefits of external storage devices (as do I, I have multiple external storage devices, a dedicated media pc for the house and currently building a home NAS) but I can use my family and my wife's family as a great example. Of the 30 or so relatives that use laptops, not one of them would buy an external hard drive on their own initiative.

You are right it is not rocket science, the fact that you are being condescending about it is frankly insulting. Try putting yourself in the shoes of people and kids with almost zero understanding of computers (other than the ability to use them) and then try to explain that they need to connect an external device to store all of their media because the $1300 laptop they bought does not have enough space....

Frankly I find it irritating as hell to swap through my 3 external drives for files (despite having a healthy 1 TB hard drive on my Ultrabook). If I find it unwieldy (at best), imagine users with very little comfort using such devices.

Then of course we could propose cloud storage. My mother (who happens to be in her 60's and is computer challenged) has about half a terabyte of tv shows and movies that she has bought through ITunes. She travels quite a bit and likes to take video with her. Also her home internet plan only provides 50 GB of data per month with moderately horrific overage fees if she goes over. If she were to move her video to the cloud, first she would likely exceed her monthly download (she also has Netflix which impacts it), and second what does she do when she travels? Kind of hard to access the cloud on a plane...

I find people with tunnel vision have a hard time understanding the challenges technology lines up for older people and kids with no interest in computers (which represents all of my daughter's teenage female friends).
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It also has to have a logo with an apple, right? rolleyes.gif

Because a laptop which is not made an aluminium or with screen resolution which doesn't force you to scale up everything cannot be just as effective at the same workload?

Ever heard of 95% the bang for 50% the price?

It is no wonder Apple got filthy rich so fast.

OS differences and preferences aside, while I could do work on other setups, I don't think I would ever willingly go back to non retina/Hi-DPI devices. Even for just coding, the difference is incredible. Sure, it's a luxury feature, but if I can afford to be an early adopter of these more visually pleasing (and less eye stress inducing) screens, I see no reason to use a cheaper solution. 1080p looks fuzzy now on ~24 monitors at normal workstation viewing distances. I'v stopped using my University lab workstation with two 24'' monitors running off a MacPro because I hate the 1080p screens and just use my Macbook at my desk (Plus, my MBPr is actually faster then their MacPro). Then there is the OS X vs Windows side of things which is a whole different debate, but being able to use OSX without hackintosh-ing it carries value to me as well.
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Perhaps you haven't met my wife or my daughter... They have no interest in using external storage devices (And both have macbook pro's). My parents both have laptops as well and despite my repeated attempts to get them to utilize external storage, they patently refuse. Mind you, they will use such devices for periodic back up (my wife and daughter will not do even that, I have to do it for them).

I get that you are a user that understands the benefits of external storage devices (as do I, I have multiple external storage devices, a dedicated media pc for the house and currently building a home NAS) but I can use my family and my wife's family as a great example. Of the 30 or so relatives that use laptops, not one of them would buy an external hard drive on their own initiative.

You are right it is not rocket science, the fact that you are being condescending about it is frankly insulting. Try putting yourself in the shoes of people and kids with almost zero understanding of computers (other than the ability to use them) and then try to explain that they need to connect an external device to store all of their media because the $1300 laptop they bought does not have enough space....

Frankly I find it irritating as hell to swap through my 3 external drives for files (despite having a healthy 1 TB hard drive on my Ultrabook). If I find it irritating and unwieldy, imagine users with very little comfort using such devices.

Then of course we could propose cloud storage. My mother (who happens to be in her 60's and is computer challenged) has about half a terabyte of tv shows and movies that she has bought through ITunes. She travels quite a bit and likes to take video with her. Also her home internet plan only provides 50 GB of data per month with moderately horrific overage fees if she goes over. If she were to move her video to the cloud, first she would likely exceed her monthly download (she also has Netflix which impacts it), and second what does she do when she travels? Kind of hard to access the cloud on a plane...

I find people with tunnel vision have a hard time understanding the challenges technology lines up for older people.

I'll answer this tomorrow when I can hold my tongue an not be banned.
 
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It also has to have a logo with an apple, right? rolleyes.gif

Because a laptop which is not made an aluminium or with screen resolution which doesn't force you to scale up everything cannot be just as effective at the same workload?

Ever heard of 95% the bang for 50% the price?

It is no wonder Apple got filthy rich so fast.

Ever heard that different people have different things they are looking for than you? rolleyes.gif I love how you escape to sarcasm because you have ZERO legitimate rebuttal to your outlandish claim that it is grossly overpriced. I also love how you try to add things in to twist the argument. Where did I ever mention wanting an Apple logo. If what I want has a pineapple (old jailbreak reference) on it, I would still gladly purchase it. I asked you very simply to backup your claim of pure ignorance; find me a portable with the same specs as the MBPr 13" at half the price like you are asserting. I will make it even more simple for you. Here is what I and anyone looking to buy or has bought an MBPr 13" want:

- Aluminum chassis: I like the feel and look of aluminum much more than plastic. This is why I buy aluminum computer cases. It is a personal preference and a very important one at that.
- 2560x1600 IPS 13" Display: You may not care that your screen looks like crap, but I like my screen sharp with great viewing angles.
- Similar thin and light dimensions (0.75" x 12.35" x 8.62" and 3.57 pounds): The 13" is very portable to me and portability is a must.
- HQ Backlit Keyboard: I like to easily see the keyboard. This has been a preference since I got my first Saitek backlit keyboard.
- Glass Trackpad: Just like with aluminum, I prefer a glass trackpad over a plastic trackpad. I like the feel of it, the smoothness, and how well it actually works.
- Battery Life: The MBPr 13" has great battery life. I need that battery life.

Those are the features that I (and many others) am looking for. I don't care about the GPU as I don't game or do any graphical editing on my laptop. I don't mention processors because it will be fast regardless, same applies for RAM and SSD. Now go fetch!

Is the MBPr 13" expensive? While that's really subjective to personal wealth, I would say that it absolutely is. However, expensive and overpriced are two vastly different things and I do not believe that it is overpriced. For anyone claiming otherwise, like I said... find me something significantly lower priced that meets the features I outlined and you may have found my next purchase.
Edited by OC'ing Noob - 2/13/13 at 2:37pm
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I'll answer this tomorrow when I can hold my tongue an not be banned.

You do that, I'll be waiting with baited breath for a solution my 69 year old father will understand. It took him 2 years to figure out how to order on E-Bay biggrin.gif
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You do that, I'll be waiting with baited breath for a solution my 69 year old father will understand. It took him 2 years to figure out how to order on E-Bay biggrin.gif

Please do.

On second thought, just go ahead and hold it purple is probably flattering on you.
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Baited breath and "holding your breath" are two different things....
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I got super excited for this. I'm really happy prices went down 200 on 13 and 250 on 15 retinas, I've been wanting one now 13' is sure buy unless I decide to go for the 15' which I probably will. Hope the 2013 line wont raise the prices agian.
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I would've thought these prices were high a year ago, but now with every decent ultraportable priced ridiculously high, it isn't. These may be the best in their class. That is about all the love I can give "The Fruit."
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